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Faction missile (im)balance.
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Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-30 20:10:01 UTC

Minmatar have viable rocket/missile ships from the Breacher frigate all the way to the Typhoon Battleship now, yet Minmatar pilots can't get faction rockets/missiles from their own racial LP stores.

I'm not sure why Minmatar don't have "Republic Fleet" missiles yet but would love to hear an explanation.


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zbaaca
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#2 - 2013-06-30 20:15:06 UTC
be a real man , use dread guri missilesBig smile

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Naomi Anthar
#3 - 2013-06-30 20:21:25 UTC
Actually ... i second this. There are Caldari navy hybrid charges, even tho missiles are thier primary weapons.

Republic Fleet Missiles should be there too .
Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-30 20:23:56 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
Actually ... i second this. There are Caldari navy hybrid charges, even tho missiles are thier primary weapons.

Republic Fleet Missiles should be there too .


Yep, Caldari get two types of ammo in their LP stores, why should Minmatar be left out?

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Mr Doctor
Therapy.
Brave Collective
#5 - 2013-06-30 23:18:49 UTC
Because matar are a ragtag bunch of ragamuffins, Caldari are an industrial superpower with an organised navy.
Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-07-01 06:06:46 UTC
Mr Doctor wrote:
Because matar are a ragtag bunch of ragamuffins, Caldari are an industrial superpower with an organised navy.


"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."

That is the description of the Nova Light Missile.

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#7 - 2013-07-01 08:24:27 UTC
In on a hot 5-way (3F-2M) thread...

Also I support this idea and don't understand why it hasn't this been implemented.

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Claire Raynor
NovaGear
#8 - 2013-07-01 08:53:35 UTC
I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.

Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.

But I'd like this!
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#9 - 2013-07-01 09:31:26 UTC
Claire Raynor wrote:
I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.

Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.

But I'd like this!


AT Missiles are great for when you're ECM'd to hell and can't fire.

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Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-01 17:14:29 UTC
Claire Raynor wrote:
I would strongly like to see faction missiles in the Minmatar faction store - but missiles would also need to show up in the Amarr one too - and then the Gallente would need something too.

Minnie do get Auto-Targeting missiles (I think) - but I've never used them that much.

But I'd like this!



FOF missiles were removed from Minmatar LP stores as far as I can tell.

Also, the Gallente and Amarr secondary weapon of choice would be drones. The problem is, right now we have one race that can get its primary and secondary weapon ammo from their own racial LP stores while nobody else does. If you don't want to give the other 3 races equal access then Caldari needs hybrid ammo removed from their LP stores. If I have to import my missiles from Caldari space, why don't they have to import their hybrid ammo from Gallente space?

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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-01 17:24:53 UTC
I wouldn't have a problem with Republic Fleet missiles just so long as they didn't have a boosted damage value over T1 missiles per Caldari Navy missiles. They should have a different bonus such as increased missile or explosion velocity or a reduced size so you can fit more into your launcher.

Faction ammo is fine as long as there's a difference between the factions' ammo. Too many faction mods are one size fits all with few like the split between Caldari Navy and Federation Navy railguns where the FN guns do more damage but the CN guns get better range. I'd like to see that sort of differentiation applied to more faction mods and ammo.
Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-01 17:30:07 UTC
FN and CN ammo are the same stats, I think Minmatar missiles should be a damage boost as well.

If you want to differentiate the turrets/launchers ok, but the ammo needs to be the same.

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Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-01 19:36:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Colt Blackhawk
Minmatar already have the easiest fw missions out there when npcs use tracking disruptors against bombers^^.
Or why do you think we had that winmatar farmer mess in inferno? Because everyone thought: we need minmatar tier5 because their missions are the easiest stuff in the universe.
One year later and minmatar market still hasn´t recovered from that CCP joke called inferno.
Really don´t think they need more advantages.

Ah and before somone tells me about usual lv4 missions in high sec: They don´t affect the market.
The carebears in highsec need months to grab the lp a fw guy can grab in some hours.

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Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-07-01 19:43:14 UTC
Colt Blackhawk wrote:

Really don´t think they need more advantages.


Last time I checked, Minmatar and Caldari aren't exactly best friends, would Russia use American missiles to arm their jets? Nope, just like Minmatar shouldn't have to use Caldari missiles for the same reason.

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Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-07-01 19:47:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Colt Blackhawk
Jen Ann Tonique wrote:
Colt Blackhawk wrote:

Really don´t think they need more advantages.


Last time I checked, Minmatar and Caldari aren't exactly best friends, would Russia use American missiles to arm their jets? Nope, just like Minmatar shouldn't have to use Caldari missiles for the same reason.


I couldn´t remember that minmatards are hight tech dudes. They are still eating their meat uncooked because they have no clue how to make a fire and pray to Wilson the volleyball.
And suddenly they can produce high tech missiles like caldari?
JUST NO.


There are still so many imbalances that are pro minmatard (for example pirate factions^^) in this game that we really don´t need new ones.

Edit: Wiiiiiiiilsoooooooon!

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Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-07-01 20:07:46 UTC
Jen Ann Tonique wrote:


"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."

That is the description of the Nova Light Missile.



Quoting myself for emphasis.

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Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-07-01 20:17:51 UTC
Jen Ann Tonique wrote:
Jen Ann Tonique wrote:


"The Nova light missile is a tiny nuclear projectile based on a classic Minmatar design that has been in use since the early days of the Minmatar Resistance."

That is the description of the Nova Light Missile.



Quoting myself for emphasis.


A musket is still related to a machine gun but crappy in comparison to it^^

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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-07-01 20:19:20 UTC
+million Big smile

Also Khanid Navy missiles, please!
Colt Blackhawk
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-07-01 20:21:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Colt Blackhawk
Tobias Hareka wrote:
+million Big smile

Also Khanid Navy missiles, please!


You can get a pink tutu, too.


Well at least Khanid missiles would make more sense background technically than minmatar ones.
So.... Khanids in pink tutu?

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Jen Ann Tonique
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-07-01 20:25:29 UTC
Tobias Hareka wrote:
+million Big smile

Also Khanid Navy missiles, please!



Lets not get ahead of ourselves here. It's obvious we have some anti Minmatar issues to work through (otherwise why is this still even a thing right?) so one step at a time. Smile

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