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Why do I suck at PVP?

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Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#21 - 2013-06-28 17:15:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Za'afiel
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As you are a Squid, and the balance in the universe must exist, may your ships be cursed and your pods be blown Twisted
C U in space.

Shoot them all! Be polite.

Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#22 - 2013-06-28 17:46:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Major Killz
I see off grid users a lot, but how many do I engage? Not many. How many ships do I lose to off grid boosting fleets or single pilots? Maybe 2 - 4 ships a month.

Honestly it's the usual pilots, corporation/alliances using them all the time. So I don't see a massive increase in their uses because it's the same minority using it all the time. I roam multiple regions so I suppose that also has a lot to do with it.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Pax Thar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2013-06-28 18:07:45 UTC
Here's some advice...

Avoid condors and hook bills, don't fight them at all.

Try some tanky ships like dual rep incurs us or a Tristan and use novice plexes to get fights at 0. Go into pled and sit on button tik someone comes in, scram and goto work. You'll have to be quick to point attack frigates, or get out. The maulus is also a good option with rails, damps and drones.

Obviously I have an affinity for gallente frigates ATM becaus they are just plain good.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#24 - 2013-06-28 20:43:55 UTC
Pax Thar wrote:
Here's some advice...

Avoid condors and hook bills, don't fight them at all.

Try some tanky ships like dual rep incurs us or a Tristan and use novice plexes to get fights at 0. Go into pled and sit on button tik someone comes in, scram and goto work. You'll have to be quick to point attack frigates, or get out. The maulus is also a good option with rails, damps and drones.

Obviously I have an affinity for gallente frigates ATM becaus they are just plain good.



Hookbills are often rocket fit though...

Condors are just always maxfag fitted.

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manilabay
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-06-29 00:44:43 UTC
Thanks for all the advice guys and gals, I got my first solo frig kill today, killed a rifter while in my slasher.... Someone mentioned turning off auto reload on my anc booster, well I did and I think that's what got me the win... That baby was empty and running on pure cap a good 20 seconds before the rifter popped, I was in hull by then.. If that thing would have went on reload, bye bye slasher... Having the nos fit helped keep it going long enough..)))))))
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#26 - 2013-06-29 10:26:38 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:


The easy way to know if you should shoot 1st are by going through the following checklist:
1. Are they in a ship? - If yes shoot.
2. Are they in a pod? - If yes shoot.
3. If you are unsure about something - Shoot it because you probably can't trust it.
4. If you answered 'no' to any of these question - you are still docked.




5. If you are in Captain's Quarters then shoot the decor.

Pam:  I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why?

Idris Maelfa
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#27 - 2013-06-29 10:29:19 UTC
One thing I don't understand is why one should turn off Auto Reload.

Surely the client can reload faster than I can, or am I missing something?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#28 - 2013-06-29 11:07:45 UTC
Idris Maelfa wrote:
One thing I don't understand is why one should turn off Auto Reload.

Surely the client can reload faster than I can, or am I missing something?



Its because it takes 60 seconds to reload, and in that time you will be dead.

You're better of being able to get off 1-2 cycles of your cap after its empty



This is more true for AAR's though, the default on those should be autoreload off..

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Idris Maelfa
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#29 - 2013-06-29 11:33:10 UTC
Thanks for the explantion.

I, and my many corpsses, are grateful.
Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2013-06-30 01:10:54 UTC
118 mil and you cant kill? Learn to play the pvp. I am old at 35mill and can kill. Each death learn and dont addume a leet fit will win. Learn to die and be reborn again. Phoenix pvp is what i play.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2013-06-30 12:33:06 UTC
Agmonar wrote:
118 mil and you cant kill? Learn to play the pvp. I am old at 35mill and can kill. Each death learn and dont addume a leet fit will win. Learn to die and be reborn again. Phoenix pvp is what i play.


http://images.wikia.com/thehandslap/images/a/a6/So_hardcore.png

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The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-06-30 18:22:56 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Idris Maelfa wrote:
One thing I don't understand is why one should turn off Auto Reload.

Surely the client can reload faster than I can, or am I missing something?



Its because it takes 60 seconds to reload, and in that time you will be dead.

You're better of being able to get off 1-2 cycles of your cap after its empty



This is more true for AAR's though, the default on those should be autoreload off..



This.

It should also be said that on attack frigs, that rely on using their speed to get to a spot where incoming dps is reduced, having a large burst of tank is good in the opening moments of the fight. Then the reduced rate of the aar should see you through till the end.

I think they are much better than asb's, but I'm an armour tanker so I probably would say that.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-06-30 21:47:38 UTC
manilabay wrote:
Thanks for all the advice guys and gals, I got my first solo frig kill today, killed a rifter while in my slasher....


Congrats on your first solo kill!

I've just come back after 5 months out and I decided that small frig combat in FW was going to be my thing.

I've managed a couple of kills (and quite a few deaths) but I am really enjoying myself. Each engagement is a learning experience for me at the moment and I have had some great fights. I had one this morning that really gave me the shakes - it was so damn close! I lost, but I learned from it.

Keep up the good work and good luck! o7

Aaaaaaand relax.

Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#34 - 2013-06-30 21:55:33 UTC
You should convo me in game sometime. I will teach you the art of PvP and you can come and fly with me and my homies. Lots of big names, and some of the best small gang PvP pilots in game currently.
Agmonar
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2013-07-01 01:33:14 UTC
Gav nice picture.I have five eyes though and your missing my poor sobbing trainer when the door slams my head in. Pirate congrats on your first kill..my post was misunderstood so i apologize.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#36 - 2013-07-01 02:54:50 UTC
Whats with the auto reload thing? I still have my auto reload on for both ASB's and AAR's.

They only reload if the module switches off. I.e running AAR on a rifter and it runs out of nanite it continues to rep but only at 2/3 repping and using normal cap. When I run out of cap or stop it repping it then starts a reload. Same with ASB's but they use so much cap they pretty much shut down after a cycle or two then satrt to reload.

Other than that keep trying mate pvp skill have very little to do with SP for your toon as you can only use a very small portion of that SP at any one time and a much younger toon with a specialised skill set can actually apply more SP to the fight than you may be able too.

Oh and if you want to do it hardcore ------ Fly rifters! Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#37 - 2013-07-01 05:22:28 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Whats with the auto reload thing? I still have my auto reload on for both ASB's and AAR's.

They only reload if the module switches off. I.e running AAR on a rifter and it runs out of nanite it continues to rep but only at 2/3 repping and using normal cap. When I run out of cap or stop it repping it then starts a reload. Same with ASB's but they use so much cap they pretty much shut down after a cycle or two then satrt to reload.

Other than that keep trying mate pvp skill have very little to do with SP for your toon as you can only use a very small portion of that SP at any one time and a much younger toon with a specialised skill set can actually apply more SP to the fight than you may be able too.

Oh and if you want to do it hardcore ------ Fly rifters! Twisted



Had an epic ASB bug on Saturday that I can't reproduce. It was epic because it worked to my advantage

It ran out of charges then ate up the rest of my cap.

I then heard that annoying little voice say 'the capacitor is empty'

The ASB started re-loading and my cap instantly jumped up to around 1/3 - I was like oh yeah FREE CAPACITOR.







3 Gallente were harmed in the making of this story.


manilabay
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-07-02 21:37:24 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
Whats with the auto reload thing? I still have my auto reload on for both ASB's and AAR's.

They only reload if the module switches off. I.e running AAR on a rifter and it runs out of nanite it continues to rep but only at 2/3 repping and using normal cap. When I run out of cap or stop it repping it then starts a reload. Same with ASB's but they use so much cap they pretty much shut down after a cycle or two then satrt to reload.

Other than that keep trying mate pvp skill have very little to do with SP for your toon as you can only use a very small portion of that SP at any one time and a much younger toon with a specialised skill set can actually apply more SP to the fight than you may be able too.

Oh and if you want to do it hardcore ------ Fly rifters! Twisted



The reason I won that 1v1 was due to the fact that I had a nos fit and was able to leach a enough cap to be able to get a couple more pulses out of the aar. If I had it on auto reload, that wouldn't have been an option.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-07-03 02:19:44 UTC
I screwed up a fight with a Punisher by mis-managing my SAAR earlier - interesting how much you have to manage that module.

It is a lot more fun than it should be. I just keep on learning.

Aaaaaaand relax.

Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#40 - 2013-07-03 10:40:50 UTC
use drugs.

knowledge is power.

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