EVE General Discussion

I'd honestly like a specific example of a technical task made more difficult between 7 and 8. I see the argument a lot but I haven't actually seen a real situation used.

edit: Cost to business and supporting old software I definitely see as valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade. People trying to argue that it is "less user friendly than DOS," not so much.

Oh, they keep the drivers updated. But it's not pretty. My relative can spend a weekend just trying to install archaic Xerox drivers for an office. There's so many businesses out there that doesn't update their OS, support companies cater to them. But to work on them, for the techs, it's pounding heads against many a desk. Old OSes suck, they really really do.

And this makes me wonder how it is with these older MMOs. They're stuck with a really old engine and it's limitations.

Or just get an nVidia card.

There are still something like 40% of PC users that still use WinXP world wide. That's a crap-load of customers to lose to your competitor. What if nVidia continues to support WinXP? Wouldn't that be exactly the case? A crap-load of people are gonna start buying nVidia graphics cards for their machines, and keep using XP.

Sure, I'd love to upgrade to Windows 7 and use 1.5GB of RAM instead of 0.4GB of RAM at idle, and have no actual performance increase. That would be GREAT.

Oh look, it's this circlejerk again!

That is the most ******** video I have ever seen, and I have seen some ****.

Windows 8 is basically a copy of Windows 7 who just runs a bit faster and has the metro UI. Basically nothing he says in the video is true. Yeah, it takes some getting used to, but I can use it just as fine as I could any other OS.

Pretty much, since microsoft are dropping XP support from April 2014. No reason for anyone to not get on at least windows 7, can pick a legit unused license and disk on ebay for 30 quid or so.

wait, isn't openoffice a bit closed up and people are shifting to LibreOffice instead?

Hmm, the multinational company, in the US, that's been around for over 100 years that I work for....lets see....about 85% of the productivity computers use XP. The remaining 15% is Windows 7....for low to mid level managers and those employees that require unfettered internet access. High level management gets their choice of MacOS....on laptops and Windows 8....on tablets. Of course, as anyone knows, high level management doesn't really do anything but waste O2 and throw their superiority around.

So, you can say what you want. But there's a reason XP has hung on with an iron grip. That reason is, from a productivity perspective, no other Windows OS since has been able to provide compelling reasons to upgrade. Windows 8 certainly hasn't. Instead Windows 8 has ignored productivity...completely. But then, Windows 8 isn't an OS to be used by the user but instead it uses the user...consumption.

My main problem with Windows 8 and Ubuntu's Unity is the utter and complete lack of user control where they took the concept of contextual menus, threw it out, and replaced it with a search interface that isn't much of an improvement over a CLI. Well, if I have a choice, just give me a CLI. At least there I can navigate, have control and see at a glance what my options are rather than playing guessing games with a search tool before I can get to the business of my business.

It's not like XP can't be made to be secure. It can be. It just won't be functional for anything other than getting work done assuming one doesn't need to randomly use the internet.

I upgraded to Windows 7, will not upgrade to Windows 8. The only reasons I don't ditch Windows and use Linux instead is that it generally suffers from poorly performing drivers and no Eve client. Otherwise, I would. I just won't get caught up in the issues of Wine....won't. I have a Foxconn Netbox that, in windows, plays 1080p videos no problems. In Linux, even using proprietary drivers, it chokes. Otherwise, it would be running Linux.

You don't realize just how dirt poor many EvE players are, do you?

Nope, not all video cards running Windows 7 support Directx 11. All of them support at least Directx 10 because that was the initial release that came with 7.