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Keeping BPOs secure

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Zlake
The Terminus Enclave
Einstein-Rosen Brigade
#1 - 2013-06-26 00:40:55 UTC
So I am debating about joining a corp. I want to use my own pos. I really don't want to give the lead way to trust any CEO/Director. Is there a way yo keep my bpos Secure from them and still use my pos for myself?
Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-26 00:44:09 UTC
Not that I know of.

If you have other people in your corp, anybody with research roles can see, deliver and take research jobs (including BPOs) at your PoS.
Huttan Funaila
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2013-06-26 02:13:20 UTC
Zlake wrote:
Is there a way to keep my bpos secure from them and still use my pos for myself?

What I do is leave my valuable BPO in highsec. And they never leave an NPC station. 2B is about my upper limit for risk - nothing more valuable goes to low/null/w-space. I trust the guys I fly with. I have trust issues with stations I don't own (and can be locked out of at someone else's pleasure).
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#4 - 2013-06-26 03:42:22 UTC
Huttan Funaila wrote:
Zlake wrote:
Is there a way to keep my bpos secure from them and still use my pos for myself?

What I do is leave my valuable BPO in highsec. And they never leave an NPC station. 2B is about my upper limit for risk - nothing more valuable goes to low/null/w-space. I trust the guys I fly with. I have trust issues with stations I don't own (and can be locked out of at someone else's pleasure).


Can I fly with you sometime? I'll look after your stuff.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2013-06-26 04:27:09 UTC
CEO/Directors have access to all corp assets.

If you put the BPOs in a corp hangar (necessary to use them in a Corp owned POS), they are Corp assets.

Do with this information what you will.

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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#6 - 2013-06-26 04:35:43 UTC
Actually, has anyone tried to start a job with the BPO in a personal hangar array?

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-06-26 05:21:04 UTC
The only solution is to create an alliance, and create your own corp where you or an alt are CEO.
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#8 - 2013-06-26 17:18:01 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The only solution is to create an alliance, and create your own corp where you or an alt are CEO.


This or join an alliance with your own personal corp.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#9 - 2013-06-26 19:40:44 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The only solution is to create an alliance, and create your own corp where you or an alt are CEO.



This is one of the things I /hate/ about the corporate system.

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-06-26 20:21:48 UTC
If your thinking of joining the corp the pos becomes corp property... it's not a player owned station like the name implies.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2013-06-27 01:21:17 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
If your thinking of joining the corp the pos becomes corp property... it's not a player owned station like the name implies.

That right, because it is a Player Owned StarbaseBlink
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-06-27 03:02:32 UTC
Zlake wrote:
So I am debating about joining a corp. I want to use my own pos. I really don't want to give the lead way to trust any CEO/Director. Is there a way yo keep my bpos Secure from them and still use my pos for myself?


Joining a corp with other people that you're not the CEO of means anyone with access to those hangars can take them. The flip side though is that they will also need to give you all access to POS related security settings (anchoring, fueling, corp hangars, a wallet division, etc). This means if the corp has any POS's themselves they would need to have enough trust in you to not steal from them as well.

As others have said the best approach is to setup an alt corp that your alts are in doing the POS related stuff. It also unfortunately means you will no longer be able to do jobs on your account(s) not in this alt corp, but its the only secure way to do it.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#13 - 2013-06-27 05:23:11 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
If your thinking of joining the corp the pos becomes corp property... it's not a player owned station like the name implies.



What are corps made of? Players, that's right.

You also can't have an anchored POS that isn't corp property (aside from corner cases with corps disbanding), so nothing's "becoming" corp property.

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Ljuvi
#14 - 2013-06-28 10:26:47 UTC
I have to move ( due to this f... war ) and fretting about my BPO's.
Charles Javeroux
INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
#15 - 2013-06-29 05:10:13 UTC
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
Not that I know of.

If you have other people in your corp, anybody with research roles can see, deliver and take research jobs (including BPOs) at your PoS.


The Odyssey expansion brought a much welcome change to bring up security on the research jobs. Now only the CEO/Director of the corp and the research job initiator can deliver the research job. This change were in the patch notes, has been tested and works as intended.

As for the BPO's, the only secure storage for them is to lock them down to a corp hangar in a station.
Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#16 - 2013-06-29 12:22:08 UTC
you can lock them in a corp hangar. Anyone will rolls will be able to use them but in order to unlock them the CEO has to give his fiat.

pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-06-29 17:26:27 UTC
Charles Javeroux wrote:
Vito Tattaglia wrote:
Not that I know of.

If you have other people in your corp, anybody with research roles can see, deliver and take research jobs (including BPOs) at your PoS.


The Odyssey expansion brought a much welcome change to bring up security on the research jobs. Now only the CEO/Director of the corp and the research job initiator can deliver the research job. This change were in the patch notes, has been tested and works as intended.

As for the BPO's, the only secure storage for them is to lock them down to a corp hangar in a station.


yeah, was gonna say, Odyssey helped make life easier by just a little bit. Hopefully that trend continues.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-06-29 17:37:52 UTC
Charles Javeroux wrote:
The Odyssey expansion brought a much welcome change to bring up security on the research jobs. Now only the CEO/Director of the corp and the research job initiator can deliver the research job.


Anyone can still deliver the jobs, I just (intentionally) delivered a corp-mate's job. The Odyssey change was that only a CEO/director or owner can cancel the job.