Assembly Hall

To the Council Of Stellar Management,

If you read the EVE Online: Odyssey Feedback thread you will see that there is many anger and frustration with some specific contents of the new expansion Odyssey. I expect you, the members of the Council Of Stellar Management for which I have voted, that you bring these points to attention before CCP and urge them to state solutions. Especially the comments of some players, including myself, to get Motion Sickness or Simulation Sickness through the new effects and camera movements especially on long travels.

Best regards,
Aya Shinomiya

Hi,


I think some little changes might help. I am not sure. Should be tested. I think it is more the combination of camera movement and effects. Also the succession of warp travel and jump. I do not think it is wise to fob the players with things they can do at home to avoid the problem instead of ingame improvements.


My suggestions in this matter:

• Removing of the camera shaking while entering and leaving warp travel. Until CCP found the possibilitiy to actual let the ship shaking and not the camera (-drones). This would be indeed a difference. The perspective would be fix while the ship on it is shaking. Now it is conversely. I think this is one point that causes the sickness.


• Removing of the camera swing before the jump effect. It is very aggressive camera movement. Jumping from gate to gate needs only a few seconds. If you travel through many systems you see this swing in combaination with the jumping effect in quick succession. And if we are serious. Our ships do not fly direct through the event horizon of the gate. They disappear and appear around the gate. We can see it. So this camera swing to create the illusion that the ship is moving through the gate is in my eyes expendable for the purpose of let player feel better while playing.


• Making the jump animation or future animations like this less aggressive and flashing and more smooth. Many player are annoyed but the jump effect after a few jumps. They cannot watch it any longer. Including myself. I think it is because the whole animation is very aggressive. First this camera swing, than this flashing speed animation and at the end this distortion effect. And this many times when you travel through many systems.

The problem with the effects in my eyes is that CCP puts to much effort in this show effect. Everything must be cool-looking and bombastical but very often they forget the user friendliness.

Many games have possibilities to break up sequences and cut scenes through pushing ESC. I do not know whether this is possible for EVE Online. But in this way player who are annoyed by the effect after a while can simply break it up. Maybe than seeing a loading bar. I do not know. I am not familiar with the technical issues.

Many player, including myself, blame CCP of not implanting options so player can decide how they want to use the game mechanics. E.g. the new scanner. I do not understand why it is so hard to give the option of automatic scan and manual scan? Now, it scans after every jump, after leaving a station or the warp. Same whith the effects. CCP forcing us sometimes to things instead of letting the player decide how to use and customize them. This is one of the main source of the anger and frustration I think. They want back the old position of the undock buttom. Damned, let they player decide where they want to put this damn thing. Sorry.


Best regards.

EDIT:
I realized that you can at least turn off camera shaking in the settings.

Bringing this up again because we could really use some CSM pressure on this issue. I would ask that you reference the thread here, and in that thread, CCP Sisyphus' post here.

Basically, CCP has admitted that there is an issue, and their chosen course of action is to slowly work on optimizing the jump animation and then testing it to see if it improves the situation. I'm afraid that this slow and incremental effort is unacceptable. The game is causing physical pain and discomfort for a portion of its paying customers. This has been live for over three weeks. Before that, it was reported repeatedly on the test server. There has been plenty of time to address this. This is not some minor bug causing a little inconvenience; it is a health issue and should be taken seriously as such. This needs an immediate fix, even if only a temporary one while they continue their optimization efforts. In the meantime though, something needs to be done, and "no eta yet" is not an acceptable option.

So how about it CSM? Whether you like th animation or not, can you support the players you are supposed to represent, and apply some pressure to CCP to try to get us a quick solution on this? It doesn't have to be pretty, it doesn't have to be complete, it doesn't have to be permanent, but we need some relief from this problem, and we need it ASAP!

i think a fine solution would be to give an option to disable the auto rotation of the cam or allow us to control the cam during the jump sequence and also showing our ship during the jump and applying the gate cloak just before landing in system. the reason i say show the ship during the jump sequence is due to a technique that figure skaters use while performing spins is to focus on a point this would allow us to focus on our ships. i personally do not have an issue with the jump in its current form and would be sad to see any changes to it but i sympathize with my fellow spaceship pilots and will not be telling them to htfu this time even though i really really want too.

My response to CCP's position: Not good enough.

They had feedback on the test server.

They've had almost four weeks live.

They even had their own devs reporting the problem.

And their respons is "we'll get to it eventually"?!?!

This has gone on too long already; CCP's neglect and indifference to the early reports is no excuse for this delay. CCP needs to understand the term "stopgap measure," and implement something until they can put in the fix that they want.

Everything CCP has said indicates that they are simply unwilling to fix this sooner because they don't want to remove their new art asset, and want to take their time to try to "optimize" it in some unsubstantiated hope that they can do so in a way that will remove all ill effects whle still preserving the animation. By insisting on this unneeded delay, they are putting the importance of their pretty animation above the physical well being of their customers, and frankly, that is more sickening than the jump sequence will ever be.

Of course, OP gets my support. I have because of the gate animation unsub my 3 accounts. My main ends here on 2 / 7th
I can only then hope ccp making ​​an on / off option at some point.

Sooner rather than later! so I can return.