EVE General Discussion

In other words, in your recent blog you say that bringing a ship into battle should be a commitment, without the possibility to simply log off when things not going well.

Why is it still possible then, to log off after jump and simply disappear after a min? Sure, most ships wont survive 1 min at a big enough gate camp.

Im talking about the ships which will.

Good tanked BS's even BC's, Orca's and Freighters come into my mind, which always have the possibility to escape, when there are only a handful of tacklers and damagedealers attacking.

One minute wont be enough in many cases. (also because you simply dont notice THAT they log off)

Why dont they get the 15 min aggro, even if they are engaged after log off? I dont see the difference. They commited their ship to battle as they jumped through that WH/GATE, they shouldnt be able to escape like that.

I fully understand that some people have real issues with their isp and therefore have real disconnects during play, but i doubt that this happens more commonly than the exploit im talking about here. Also, if i know that i have issues with my isp, i dont fly my ship to dangerous regions, simple as that.

Maybe CCP can explain further on this topic?

edit: Quoted CCP Tallest and bolded the important part

You missed the topic.

So you both say, its perfectly fine to exploit this mechanic? Or in other words, you say when i dont have enough dps at hand, the target it legitimated to escape?

I think i dont understand you, cause this makes no sense at all.

Im not talking about high sec ganks. Im talking about targets of opputunity.

Example:
You are scouting your wormhole region, jumping through a wormhole and suddenly an orca warps right into you at 0.
He jumps, and on the other side your corpmate gets the info that he has to tackle it. Orca decloaks, 2 Recons engaging it. Orca disapears after a min, in half armor.

I think this is wrong.

and when it logs back on it will return to the same place in half armor

like my ex used to tell me, commitment is a two way street

I wasn't talking about hisec ganks either. I was just mearly using them as an example of people organized enough to drop a freighter or any other ship short of a supercap within the 1 min timer. Simple answer is bring more DPS and don't engage unless you know you can kill it.

If your two recons can't drop the orca, bring more recons/dps. If orca does manage to escape the 1 min timer, wait for a bit. Chances are, they'll log back in to see if they're still in a ship within 15 min or so.

You know what I really hate that isn't fixed by the current ideas? When we manage to find someone and trap them and they clear aggro, either by jumping through a gate (which is a really stupid way for CCP to clear aggro) or warping around for 15 minutes. But they are being actively hunted, so we scan them down right away, but by the time they are scanned down and we warp to them, we land just in time to see them disappear in space.

IMO extend the aggression timer if they get re-aggressed during this 1 minute. If I can scan someone down and warp to his last location and get 1 shot off on him, that should extend the aggression. That would prevent logging off from being a viable mechanic. As it stands, yea, they fixed it for supers, so if that's the only thing they intended then well done. But the statement seems pretty all encompassing, "logging off should not be a viable tactic", and if that's so, then there's still work that needs to be done.

It wasnt even a trap, it was a mere coincidence that i landed on his side ot the wormhole as he landed right next to me and his careless attempt to fly through dangerous space turned into his favor by using an exploit.

basically just don't be a bubbleless scrub

You know trying to make sense out of game mechanics generally does not end up well for those concerned. I hear it brings out the hounds of tindalos.