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If its ok to DDoS someones eve coms that your fighting, is it ok for me to start....

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Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-28 02:30:33 UTC
If its ok to DDoS someones eve com's that your fighting, is it ok for me to start punching people i'm fighting in the sack next time i go to fan-fest?



I see no difference there both taking in game, to out of game.




If your ok with one why is the other one not ok?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#2 - 2013-06-28 02:36:11 UTC

Of course neither is okay. But we all know this, so I'm confused. What are we here to discuss?

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ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2013-06-28 04:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
When is it ok to DDoS someones comms?

Oh also: DDoSing someones comms: "Hey guys I can't get into TS"
Punching someone 'down there': "Hey there, what do you do in E- argh, what the hell? Why'd you punch me there?"

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#4 - 2013-06-28 04:11:47 UTC
No it's not OK to do either. But then it's stupid to use comms that reveal your IP to others.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-28 04:16:18 UTC
I miss DOS

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-28 04:19:42 UTC
Both have consequences. Punching someone in the nuts I think will have more 'tangible' repercussions.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-28 04:21:08 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
No it's not OK to do either. But then it's stupid to use comms that reveal your IP to others.


When folks egos are so wrapped up in a game that they can't distinguish reality from fantasy, that's what is stupid.

If in EvE you have to hide your IP to play, then this game shouldn't be played at all, as it's a haven of some serious mentally ill players who'll do anything to win.

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-28 04:26:10 UTC
DDoSing, flag-stealing, and now punching people in the happy sack?

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Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#9 - 2013-06-28 04:26:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Although I whole heartedly agree that DDoS attacks on your coms host is terrible, perhaps you should be look for a better host. You can get DDoS protection from most server hosts, the Teamspeak official servers included.

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#10 - 2013-06-28 04:27:30 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Setaceous wrote:
No it's not OK to do either. But then it's stupid to use comms that reveal your IP to others.


When folks egos are so wrapped up in a game that they can't distinguish reality from fantasy, that's what is stupid.

If in EvE you have to hide your IP to play, then this game shouldn't be played at all, as it's a haven of some serious mentally ill players who'll do anything to win.

It's something that happens in all PvP in MMOs. Mostly because people don't update their software and other people become overly competitive. Example - old versions of Skype are vulnerable to an IP snoop, the newer version is not.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#11 - 2013-06-28 04:40:27 UTC
It's also illegal in a whole lot of countries to do that, so if someone is targeting you like that, consider taking it to the cops via your ISP.
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-28 04:54:45 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
It's also illegal in a whole lot of countries to do that, so if someone is targeting you like that, consider taking it to the cops via your ISP.

I like his idea of punching someone in the sack more than this one. People's contemporary reliance on cops is why a lot of crap has become so widespread. *Report to police, realize after a few months that nothing will be done about it anyway*
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#13 - 2013-06-28 05:00:36 UTC
Nut punching is always funny and permisable.

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Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#14 - 2013-06-28 05:04:48 UTC
The OP makes me think he petitioned CCP about it, as if they have any control over your OOG comms. CCP can't do much if your comms get shut down but something tells me you'll have a series of difficulties if you go around punching guys in the sack at Fan-Fest.

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Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2013-06-28 05:04:56 UTC
Enjoy your little cozy cell.
S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
#16 - 2013-06-28 05:16:44 UTC
DoS prosecution is all about intent. Sometimes I just feel like sending my enemy a TB of gay sex; who could fault me for that? (kidding - no list please)

Incidentally, please stop saying DDoS when you mean DoS.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#17 - 2013-06-28 05:20:59 UTC
S Byerley wrote:
DoS prosecution is all about intent. Sometimes I just feel like sending my enemy a TB of gay sex; who could fault me for that? (kidding - no list please)

Incidentally, please stop saying DDoS when you mean DoS.

Just don't send it to them image by image by linking it in local.

(Porn in local will get you banned for a week or so)

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Amarra Mandalin
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2013-06-28 05:39:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Arduemont wrote:
Although I whole heartedly agree that DDoS attacks on your coms host is terrible, perhaps you should be look for a better host. You can get DDoS protection from most server hosts, the Teamspeak official servers included.


Just don't throw away your money for nearly useless protection plans that only prevent amateurs from doing anything.

Just having a better financed and bigger company hosting it, will scare many of these types off anyway and/or they will be able to track the culprit(s) down.

Considering the geek-pool that is EVE, if someone is determined enough to do this, they will likely accomplish their goals -- whether or not they get away with it is another story.
Just Lilly
#19 - 2013-06-28 06:00:21 UTC
Can't decide right from wrong if you had to ask the question, both are bad.

However, one of them, you would probably get away with fairly easy Ugh
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-06-28 06:04:49 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
It's something that happens in all PvP in MMOs. Mostly because people don't update their software and other people become overly competitive. Example - old versions of Skype are vulnerable to an IP snoop, the newer version is not.


I have a Vent server. I raid and do PvP with that server.

Never had DDoS.

Why?

Because most people aren't so seriously disturbed that they need too.

If you regularly have a problem with DDoS attacks, really check who you associate with and what you play. Because like in real life, if you sleep with the dogs, you will get fleas.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
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