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low sec gank loki

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Magnus Saken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-27 13:01:33 UTC
Im looking for a viable fit, ill have eyes on other side so just curious about a decent loki fit that can take out frigs and cruisers fast and then gtfo.

Are there such things as 100mn AB Arty lokis?

Guessing long webs and point will be needed.

any fitting help would be great.

thanks.
Magnus Saken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-27 15:11:13 UTC
i can also fly legions, are legions better for catching small stuff, aparently they can get better scan res?

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-27 15:13:08 UTC
what are you planning to do?

camp gates?

scan down pvers and miners?
Magnus Saken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-27 15:14:07 UTC
Well its by a busy FW system and you get a lot of solo frigs dessies and cruisers running thru the gates. so yea camp gates
Ginger Barbarella
#5 - 2013-06-27 15:17:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ginger Barbarella
T3 Strat Cruiser v. frigates... Someone has ballz o' steel.

Roll

I've read that Justin Beiber is a big man when he has several huge bodyguards with him... If it's one-on-one he runs home like a little b!tch and won't open the front door.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Tinu Moorhsum
Random Events
#6 - 2013-06-27 15:27:26 UTC
Magnus Saken wrote:
Well its by a busy FW system and you get a lot of solo frigs dessies and cruisers running thru the gates. so yea camp gates


You won't lock fast enough to point solo frigates so I would tend to let them go.

For smaller stuff I'd tend to use the 425mm guns, tracking modules and damage mods in the lows 1 or maybe 2 webs and you'll need at least a bit of a buffer and in the neighbourhood of 500dps on active tank in order to hold out on your target and tank the gate guns. Not sure if a large or XL ASB will do that for you. you'll have to play around with it.

Also, dessies are kind of fast for a loki to keep up with so you absolutely postively need decent webbing or it's a non starter.

Frankly, you'd have more luck sitting off the gate in a tornado and just alpha-ing small stuff.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-27 15:36:33 UTC
If you're camping gates to catch frigates and dessies then I would go with a legion with the scan res sub

However you're still likely to end up as a funny killmail before long.
Nitocriss
Pulse Heavy Industries
#8 - 2013-06-27 15:47:03 UTC
I would advise you choose your targets wisely. I have seen a Hawk take a Loki to structure before the Loki's friends showed up.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-27 15:49:51 UTC
Nitocriss wrote:
I would advise you choose your targets wisely. I have seen a Hawk take a Loki to structure before the Loki's friends showed up.


was it a loki without webs ;D?
Ginger Barbarella
#10 - 2013-06-27 15:52:14 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Nitocriss wrote:
I would advise you choose your targets wisely. I have seen a Hawk take a Loki to structure before the Loki's friends showed up.


was it a loki without webs ;D?


Irrelevent... sounds like the mighty Loki was seconds from getting pwn'd by a lowly AF... :)

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac

Nitocriss
Pulse Heavy Industries
#11 - 2013-06-27 16:05:11 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Nitocriss wrote:
I would advise you choose your targets wisely. I have seen a Hawk take a Loki to structure before the Loki's friends showed up.


was it a loki without webs ;D?


Whether it was a poorly fit Loki or not I do not know. Either way true story. Maybe the Hawk is just a badass Twisted
Magnus Saken
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-27 17:32:08 UTC
Thanks for replies. I would be playing it safe and i do have an alt that would sit on other side of gate scouting and the corp im in is pretty active.

ive encounted a gate camp before with 2 legions and they insta locked my shuttle.. but its possible i guess that the other legion was boosting the others scan res.

ive encounted more gate camps with legions then lokis, maybe ill look for a solid legion fit they seem rather popular in low sec these days. Or i might just keep a bounce and when scout sees someone come to gate warp to within range and hopfuly alpha them :) That would be the cheapest option.
4runner
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-06-27 21:04:36 UTC
If you don't fit the Loki with Twin Federation Webs you deserve to be gangked by assfrigs
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-27 22:18:33 UTC
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Nitocriss wrote:
I would advise you choose your targets wisely. I have seen a Hawk take a Loki to structure before the Loki's friends showed up.


was it a loki without webs ;D?


Irrelevent... sounds like the mighty Loki was seconds from getting pwn'd by a lowly AF... :)



That's what I often say to dudes asking me tips about some T3's.

If you're not comfortable doing whatever hunting type with an SFI/Vagabond or even Cynabal, fitting them and make kills with, do not jump in to a T3 because those are not pownmachines on their own.

Yet I still see hilarious KM's of T3's gank, Tengus with 100MN without point or web, armor lokis without at least 1web (hell the fking sub has a web bonus, idiots!!), legions with double cap injector web but no point and so on.

1st rule first

If you want to pvp solo, you WANT a long point for start and web, scram depending on a lot of small stuff including piloting skills, but any fit without the mandatory web/point fits is a no go on my books, and they will get killed faster they can have decent kills.

If you don't feel comfortable playing in an SFI/Vagabond/Cynabal, you don't jump in to a T3, the ship alone will not di the job for you.

If you don't feel comfortable spewing missiles with a caracal or nano drake, you don't jump in to a Tengu

If you dont feel comfortable pewpewing with a navy omen or a zealot you don't jump in to a Legion

If you don't feel comfortable loosing suicide raxes and zipping all around in vigilants, you don't take any sort of Proteus out

New guys to T3's need to understand that so much naysaying about T3's is completely biased, some got their tràlàlà touch by a good T3 pilot and thought they could do the same, they got killed and don't understand why
Other are simply following the T3 hate bandwagon while they know nothing about those.
Many are just jumping on an economical target and what a juicy one.

Just don't, if you don't feel already comfortable or are experienced enough with cruiser/bc gang/fleet/solo work just don't. You'll be very disappointed and waste a lot of time for deceptions.

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-06-27 23:26:35 UTC
4runner wrote:
If you don't fit the Loki with Twin Federation Webs you deserve to be gangked by assfrigs


180's , you forgot the dam 180...you deserve to be killed by assfrigs Lol

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