EVE General Discussion

WoW was more popular in China... Just saying.

They are both Online video games though. Pragmatic logic says they have things in common. My Caldari was -8.00 at one point I think. I just made an alt but I'm lazy that way.

the difference is .. that you actually care you have lost standing with gallente because of the consequences..

i thought i had found a sweet lil gig around gallente space ..

i would go out and find these statically spawning cruisers in high sec and kill them they would drop some decent loot at times
so i booked marked em and would farm them .

one day i was checking my standing and i noticed i was loosing caldari standing like crazy .. and the reason was because i was destroying caldari navy cruisers . well i had to make a choice then ..


regardless.

in eve your choices has consequences that effect how you experience the game .


welcome to eve.

Disagree with your argument.

if you want to black and white it however then all games are no different than one another just different skins warped around what you can and can not do.
What makes games unique is what the player is allowed to invest into them .
this is where eve and wow differ and varies greatly on how you value that investment .
eve allows players to invest their time into a large meta verse.

wow allows players to invest their time into a arguably more shallow game of gear grinding and one up man ship.
but that really depends on you how view things, and unfortunately i am unable to see pass my own prejudice against wow.
however i have customers who are invested heavily into wow so there is something to that game that they clearly value

again it is a matter of perception .

this perceived difference is enough to conclude that wow and eve are two entirely different games.
Again it is how the game allows the players to interact within that world . and whether those players are satisfied with that interaction .

Also im not sure about that whole player recycling thing, as this market keeps growing and expanding into new branches .

new players are coming in daily and searching for new games to play .
I my self have been taking aback by the success of the free to play markets, and how many B titles there are. somehow these titles retain and also mange to keep paying players, old and new .
something that surprised me was that anarchy online just had its 12th anniversary and somehow they have enough funding and justification to renew the gaming engine.

if it was the same player being recycled time after time we would not see the breath of diversity that we do in mmorpg market (granted diversity is a loosely used term here ) Because i believe that pool would be tapped out at some point and the money would not be there anymore.

As far as dissing goes it comes with the territory . game dissing has been around since the days of oregon trail being totally wiz over spacewar and vice versa..

and im sure those who had access to those games back then looked down on their board game playing flunkeys.

gaming breeds this attitude through its competitive nature and we all will be playing one game that is better than the other forever . it is so low level its even prevalent in physical sports , just ask curling fans vs hockey fans.

in the end it is all part of the fun . and that is what it boils down to . what do you have fun doing most .

playing eve ? playing wow ?

or trolling forums ?

as for me as much as i hate to admit it i seem to enjoy option number 3 the most ...

How does one infiltrate a Guild in WoW, steal everything, close it down, make half a dozen players quit for life, and not only not get banned but get a big pat on the back by the GMs for original thinking?


I said to my mom I said "Hey, mom, what's up with all the sauerkraut?" And my dear, sweet mother She just looked at me like a cow looks at an oncoming train, and she leaned right down next to me and she said, "IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!!"

And I'll just leave this here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online

So, let me see if I have got this right.

1. You decided to go to low sec and/or play the pirate and as a result now have such a bad standing you can't get back into high sec
2. You have decided you want out of low sec and want to come back and play in high sec.
3. You want Eve to simply turn a blind eye to your past crimes, pat you on the head and let you back into high sec with just a promise of being good.

That is why Eve is not like WOW. Eve rewards or punishes you for the way you play the game. You have just been given a new way to increase your standing, it is not the only way, there are others too. But the emphasis has always been on making you earn your 'return ticket'.
You will have shown no regard for your targets, most of who were probably not PvP enabled. So why should others be worried about a wannabe, sometimes pirate who cant stand the heat?

Either do the grind, or pay up for the tags. The latter I would suggest as I have lots of them up for sale, and I think it's great, real poetic justice that I am now able to screw iskies out of pirates who want to be good boys and girls again.

I can't be bothered to google the image with Spongebob and the rainbox between his hands. Empire mission PVE will see you change your standings, you wrecked them yourself, and then complain how unfair this is? Or that getting back in favour with the faction you were slaughtering a moment ago is a grind? Or that it costs a lot of ISK to do away with that grind? I fully enjoy the (harsh) consequences of my own (criminal) behaviour by adapting my playstyle, why don't you?

Ace, keep in mind, many of us came from WoW, and instead of returning home, we decided "to hell with our trailerpark kneejerk parents, we're staying here where the game is less mindless". WoW, like most traditional mmos is far more about the reaction time than the plan. In all fairness, I would say that not even MWD frigate dogfighting in Eve requires the same reaction time as pvp in WoW. Eve counterbalances this with the preparation depth.

You said that gear in WoW is like SP in Eve. I would argue otherwise. I would say that your gear in WoW is like your ship/fit in Eve, whereas your SP is more like your character level and skill points, though since I haven't played since HMDS, I haven't seen the derped abomination that replaced the old wow skill system. Theorycrafting in WoW is all but dead. In Eve, it's ever evolving, as someone comes out with yet another counter to yet another doctrine.

I see what you're doing there

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