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How to make people like you in Eve?

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metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#21 - 2013-06-26 23:24:17 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
I am having a hard time making friends in the new alliance my corporation joined. I am hoping GD can give me pointers on how to win people over in Eve.

I am not going for Eve-fame or anything, I just would like to not have blues shoot at me and call me names in alliance chat anymore.

Thank you in advance for your advice.


Gank them and gank them so hard they can't get laid for a week.





I don't think these guys have that sort of sense of humour.
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-06-26 23:33:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
I knew you weren't (dare not be) serious by not posting with an alt, otherwise you'd be alienating you and your corp further. But after looking at your corp's killboard, I can't imagine why your Alliance doesn't like you. ha, ha --I get it.

Kill reds instead, be loved.
Litair
Nleesh
#23 - 2013-06-26 23:36:29 UTC
Can you provide an example of how you generally would go about introducing yourself to the local residents and how you subsequently try to befriend them?

I think that would give us all a solid foundation from where we can start working on you.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#24 - 2013-06-26 23:40:30 UTC
Amarra Mandalin wrote:
I knew you weren't (dare not be) serious by not posting with an alt, otherwise you'd be alienating you and your corp further. But after looking at your corp's killboard, I can't imagine why your Alliance doesn't like you. ha, ha --I get it.

Kill reds instead, be loved.


Can you please reword this because I am scratching my head at what you mean/getting at.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#25 - 2013-06-26 23:43:59 UTC
Litair wrote:
Can you provide an example of how you generally would go about introducing yourself to the local residents and how you subsequently try to befriend them?

I think that would give us all a solid foundation from where we can start working on you.


I don't think I do anything out of the ordinary, I like to chit-chat about current events, things that are topical, etc...
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-06-26 23:45:29 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Amarra Mandalin wrote:
I knew you weren't (dare not be) serious by not posting with an alt, otherwise you'd be alienating you and your corp further. But after looking at your corp's killboard, I can't imagine why your Alliance doesn't like you. ha, ha --I get it.

Kill reds instead, be loved.


Can you please reword this because I am scratching my head at what you mean/getting at.


Just read the last line then; it's the most relevant part, anyway.
DRGaius Baltar
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-06-26 23:49:08 UTC
[quote=metalravenous]I am having a hard time making friends in the new alliance my corporation joined. I am hoping GD can give me pointers on how to win people over in Eve."

Well Vigi maybe not losing Aeon's afk at a gate with 200+ russians in sys and losing another one to Sev3rance while mid-pointing to one of their main ratting systems in Provi, you would make more friends....
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#28 - 2013-06-27 00:03:49 UTC
Amarra Mandalin wrote:
metalravenous wrote:
Amarra Mandalin wrote:
I knew you weren't (dare not be) serious by not posting with an alt, otherwise you'd be alienating you and your corp further. But after looking at your corp's killboard, I can't imagine why your Alliance doesn't like you. ha, ha --I get it.

Kill reds instead, be loved.


Can you please reword this because I am scratching my head at what you mean/getting at.


Just read the last line then; it's the most relevant part, anyway.


Those are old losses and we are in a different alliance now.
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#29 - 2013-06-27 00:04:48 UTC
DRGaius Baltar wrote:
[quote=metalravenous]I am having a hard time making friends in the new alliance my corporation joined. I am hoping GD can give me pointers on how to win people over in Eve."

Well Vigi maybe not losing Aeon's afk at a gate with 200+ russians in sys and losing another one to Sev3rance while mid-pointing to one of their main ratting systems in Provi, you would make more friends....


Again, those are losses while we were in another alliance. If those losses were relevant we would not have been accepted into Test.
DRGaius Baltar
Perkone
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-27 00:07:44 UTC
i thought the bar was pretty low to be accepted into Test
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#31 - 2013-06-27 00:15:22 UTC
Ignore all the terrible previous advice in this thread.

Give people money.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
metalravenous
Pyramid Celestial
#32 - 2013-06-27 00:24:54 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Ignore all the terrible previous advice in this thread.

Give people money.


Sadly I'm a broke ass. Sad
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-06-27 00:27:29 UTC
So the new alliance is not sociable to you, but you're in TEST so why are you that bothered or are the members of the corp. not talking to you either?


My first impression of your op is that you're trolling. Just seems strange that you would ask something in GD that you could easily ask in TEST, maybe some others in TEST think the same way as you.
Amarra Mandalin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-06-27 00:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarra Mandalin
Let's say you're really a nice guy who hasn't a clue about Alliance politics...
(who for the life of me can't figure out why you're not posting with an alt,
but also can't see the point of a troll on the matter)


1. This is a big war, and wars are serious business. Remember that people will be
tense and not trust you. It's not personal.

2. Kill more reds than other corps. The guys who aren't productive or have a
lot of losses aren't loved by many.

3. Keep a low profile. Don't force yourself on people or be a doormat. Just try to
integrate when the opportunity arises. It may take a long time. (see #1)

4. Know that it may be your corp (or its ghosts -- bad losses) and not you that is at
issue -- if you like your corp, focus your efforts there be it friendship and/or improving
your game.

5. If you don't have bling, the guys who do can get resentful. At least fly what's mandatory.

6. If it's just you having a problem then that's a personal issue. Either way, your CEO et al.
should have insight and if it's a corp issue deal with it at the appropriate time. (often low priority)

7. If it's not fun, consider moving on. Corp/Alliance relationships fail pretty frequently in EVE.


P.S. And for the love of dragons, don't bump the Titan

Good Luck.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#35 - 2013-06-27 00:28:36 UTC
metalravenous wrote:
Be a follower, not a leader, got it!


The only people who say this are A-holes that can't seem to udnersantd why everyone else hates them....

(yea yea, i know i's all probably a troll, just sayin).
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#36 - 2013-06-27 00:32:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Corrupted
No one likes poor people, unless they have exceptionally good looks. It's pretty basic human psychology really. Society only values your presence if it results in more utility received than given. While money isn't the only thing you can provide (one of the other posts mentioned big favors, for example), it's probably the most important one. People will like you as long as they're better-off financially if you're around, with very few exceptions. Since this is a game, and superior genetics don't constitute one such exception, about the only thing you can offer is cash, or favors that save cash for others, or result in them getting more cash.

Cash munnay.

All the "be nice to people" and "act like a human being" is snake oil bull crap.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Fenix Caderu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-06-27 00:36:34 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
Ignore all the terrible previous advice in this thread.

Give people money.


Yep, you can buy almost anything in EvE. I promise to like anyone for a bil. I'll push the like button and everything.

But if youre not trolling...just continue your PVP and get good kills. Try to get as many as you can. Your corp will appreciate the contribution on the kbs and some ppl will ask for fits, etc.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-06-27 00:51:08 UTC
Destiny Corrupted wrote:
No one likes poor people, unless they have exceptionally good looks. It's pretty basic human psychology really. Society only values your presence if it results in more utility received than given. While money isn't the only thing you can provide (one of the other posts mentioned big favors, for example), it's probably the most important one. People will like you as long as they're better-off financially if you're around, with very few exceptions. Since this is a game, and superior genetics don't constitute one such exception, about the only thing you can offer is cash, or favors that save cash for others, or result in them getting more cash.

Cash munnay.

All the "be nice to people" and "act like a human being" is snake oil bull crap.




Cash doesn't buy you friends, although they may pretend to be a friend for the sole purpose of getting more cash. I've given away plenty of isk in the past unconditionally, I wouldn't say it's made me friends but they were genuinely thankful.


Destiny Corrupted wrote:
No one likes poor people.


That's not true, doesn't bother me if people are rich or poor as long as they try to keep themselves clean. But then I don't make class distinctions, people are just people regardless of who they know or what they own.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-06-27 00:57:30 UTC
I give my corpmates the reach around, because what kind of person doesn't?

Don't ban me, bro!
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#40 - 2013-06-27 01:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
How to make people respect you (sort of):

- don't try to be anyone you are not. If everyone acts like an asshat but just can't be one... don't pretend. Early on you'll be made fun of for this... but later on people just won't care (and may even come to respect you for standing your ground).

- roll with the punches. Insults come and go... maybe they may throw some bad decisions in your face YEARS after the fact... but if you come up with a (semi) witty response once in awhile you'll be cheered.

- live by the golden rule; live and let be. Don't try to change or criticize anyone's behavior unless it becomes destructive and/or a liability for everyone else.

- be chill. Everyone hates a person who is as nervous as a squirrel (unless you have other personality traits that massively make up for this).

- if you really don't feel comfortable with the people you are flying with... time to change the people you fly with. It's nothing personal (well... it is in a way)... but you're here to have FUN. if you're not having fun then you need to do something about it.

How did you Veterans start?