EVE General Discussion

Implying maels can't already do this

I love you.

New Eden is suppose to be a dark and harsh universe. Let the newbies learn by mistake and greifing. Thats the best teaching and has been so since 2003. This game has been dumbed down enough trough the years.

Aww ganker tears... my glass is overflowing form all these gankers crying.

So what... in the case of players that gank for profit, they now just have to profit a small margin more.

For players that gank just to be a ****, its now a little bit more expensive.

HTFU

You know what hardcore eve player do? They adapt!

- Infiltrate a corp and gank their orca? (Cant do this anymore, you will be booted from corp mid-gank and then concord shows up to finish you off)--- Adapt!
- Suicide Gank people in highsec? (You still can, but now it encourages blobs of thrashers, instead of 1 or 2 tempests / solo style ganking)--- Adapt!
- Mercenary work? (You cant wardec people anymore, leaving highsec perfectly immune to wardecs and non-suicide attacks)--- Hem... Can you link that fo me i think i missed that part.
- Blowing up POS's for profit? (The already hard task of killing highsec POSs with subcaps is made worse by the fact you cant even wardec these corps anymore) Hem... Can you link that fo me i think i missed that part.
- Titans cant DD subcaps, Supercarriers cant really kill subcaps ether (These two kinda make you wonder why any of the races bothered developing supercapital ships)--- Adapt!
- Numerous concord buffs over the years and another coming up --- Adapt!

OK, obvioulsy I missed the memo ... linky?

edit ... found the linky ...
OK, so it's a decshield alliance ... thing.

not really *removing* wardecs are they?

Just someone capitalising on game mechanics ... honestly, I'm a bit sad that I didn't think of it first.

Sorry man but i must LOL. You call yourself "hardcore pvper" but all you whine is about hisec PvP. You want suicide gank with insurance, you want wardec hisec carebear corp, you want grief mining corps and newbie players, and above all, you want DD subcaps. I tell ya something. EVE is still hardcore, try to move yourself to lowsec or even better, to bussy NPC null sec. Try to shoot subcaps with subcap ship, try to wardec pvp corps and try to suicide gank tasty targets (silly multi billion T1 haulers or hulks) instead of LOL ganking without any loss. Also hotdropping 20+ SC fleet over 5+ drake fleet is not "hardcore" either.

Isn't CCP releasing 4 new gank ships? And buffing exisiting gank ship!

QFT.

REAL hardcore players look for opponents that shoot back. And than win anyways. I cannot believe all of you that are whining about highsec being made to be more secure.

If you get your jollies popping barges, can flipping noobs, or wardeccing industrial or noobie corps, you are NOT A HARDCORE PVP-er.

Whoever called you the Rohypnol street muggers is spot on. You're not fighters, you're opportunistic creeps that think they're badass cause they can stomp noobs. Not only is it a weak way to say that you "PvP", but you're potentially killing off interest for players that could stick with the game long enough to be an asset to your corp/alliance down the road.

That being said, EvE is EvE, and I'm glad that there's still a place for highsec attacks, even if they're more challenging to pull off. I will always defend Goonswarm's ability to affect ice mining, along with all the wannabes that have spawned as a result of their campaign. Everyone is free to play how they like to have fun, within the rules.

But please, stop calling yourself the hardcore of EvE. What a joke. Non-consensual PvP is not hardcore, unless its in low/nullsec and you're preparing traps for an enemy that knows how to fight and actually presents a real risk and danger.

The most skilled pilots in the game are more than willing to honor 1 vs 1's, because they're confident in their abilities. Engaging in consensual PvP does not strip you of hardcore credentials.

Highsec ganking is an easy affair. It requires some easily computable math to determine what you need to pop your target, and what you need to earn to make it profitable. Its pretty elementary pew pew, if you can even call it that. Crying because your formula is tweaked is just pathetic. Come out to low/null, and fight against an armed opponent that has as many skillpoints as you do, than you can call yourself hardcore.

pirate tears fill my belly faster then carebear tears

This is amazing. Never stop posting.