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Is the Dramiel still the king of speed?
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GhostDragoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-25 02:49:54 UTC
Just as the title says.. I'd like to know if the Dramiel is still the fastest ship in the game, or has it been nerfed into obscurity now? I've been out of game for a bit and have no idea what this new patch brings, but from what I've read so far things are getting interesting.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2013-06-25 06:47:08 UTC
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#3 - 2013-06-25 07:25:43 UTC
IIRC the Daredevil just edges the Dramiel out due to its additional lowslot and slightly higher PG...
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2013-06-25 07:43:44 UTC
Dramiel is still really good

Anyone who says otherwise is bad.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#5 - 2013-06-25 17:54:01 UTC
GhostDragoon wrote:
Just as the title says.. I'd like to know if the Dramiel is still the fastest ship in the game, or has it been nerfed into obscurity now? I've been out of game for a bit and have no idea what this new patch brings, but from what I've read so far things are getting interesting.



The Dramiel's speed wasn't touched if I recall correctly, it just lost PG so it couldn't fit such a silly tank while being that fast.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-25 18:12:22 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?


You pass your own rocket/missile with that right?
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-06-25 18:16:05 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?


You pass your own rocket/missile with that right?


Empty highs

If there was collision damage in this game though lol...

Art of Explosions
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-25 18:35:16 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?


I'm not at home so I can't link it, but I have a dramiel fit that's basically a souped up Ares (I run my ares with autocannon because :nocap:), that gets about 8100 overheated, and spits out about 120dps (IIRC). Plus light ecm drone for that additional f-you.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Skelee VI
Swamp Panthers
Bog Brotherhood
#9 - 2013-06-25 18:42:13 UTC
It is in the top3, thats for sure. But sometimes just easier to get a fast interceptor
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-25 19:16:10 UTC
Last I heard, the Claw is the fastest.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#11 - 2013-06-25 19:41:08 UTC
If we want to go truly silly, this thread is also relevant.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-25 21:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Onictus
Kahega Amielden wrote:
GhostDragoon wrote:
Just as the title says.. I'd like to know if the Dramiel is still the fastest ship in the game, or has it been nerfed into obscurity now? I've been out of game for a bit and have no idea what this new patch brings, but from what I've read so far things are getting interesting.



The Dramiel's speed wasn't touched if I recall correctly, it just lost PG so it couldn't fit such a silly tank while being that fast.



Its speed was killed.

It used to go 2300 with just an Gistii AB, its CPU and scan res took a hell of a hit as well....and now range, used to be two TEs away from 20km with barrage, those days are over as well.


I miss my old dram, thing was damn destructive.

Its still an VERY VERY good friglet, but it isn't what it was.

Skelee VI wrote:
It is in the top3, thats for sure. But sometimes just easier to get a fast interceptor


A hell of a lot cheaper as well.

Truth to be told the vigil used to be faster due to the hull's speed bonus, but that is gone now too. Used to be you could run a vigil at near 9km/s with just a meta MWD and a nano.
Vervz
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-06-26 11:34:22 UTC
I can get a stiletto to go over 8,000m/s heated with minimal skills, and thats with a T2 MWD 1NM.
Marcus Gideon
Triglavian Assembly
#14 - 2013-06-27 08:25:48 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?


This fit isn't possible (anymore).
The last ACR exceeds Calibration.

I was disappointed too, when I tried to build the very same thing.
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2013-06-27 15:32:44 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Dramiel is still really good

Anyone who says otherwise is bad.


Who said it wasn't good?!!?!? Are we reading the same thread?

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#16 - 2013-06-27 15:47:52 UTC
Marcus Gideon wrote:
Zhilia Mann wrote:
12583 cap stable?

[Dramiel, fast]
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core

10MN Digital Booster Rockets
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Full Snake set plus Zor, of course. Or were we talking practical fits?


This fit isn't possible (anymore).
The last ACR exceeds Calibration.

I was disappointed too, when I tried to build the very same thing.


For some reason I thought they'd bumped the calibration back up. Checking in game says... not so much. Daredevil it is then.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-27 17:13:28 UTC
There are real fit speeds, then there are silly fit speeds.

In any case, give Navy Slicer a spin.