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How to setup a good boosting alt?

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L0NEWARRIOR
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-26 00:32:26 UTC
Right Im sick of ending up getting raped by guys with boosting alts. Twisted Seems there are a lot of people who pretend to be looking for solo pvp and fair fights etc but are actually triple alt boosted and have a full set of high grade slaves in to boot.

I figure if you cant beat em join em!

So I have an alt which I am training up as a booster, he can already fly a Loki and has some of the required leadership skills to lev 5 but I want to know how to make this guy an almost perfect booster. I will mainly be using him as an armor or skirmish booster.

What do I need? is there a plan out there for this?

How do the minklinks work? Do I need to have the command modules running for them to work or what?

How do I setup the Loki to be hard to probe down but provide maximum boosts? Anybody have a fit?

I basically just need a plan to follow to set this all up,.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#2 - 2013-06-26 01:02:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Skills that effect a loki boosters gang link effectiveness;

Skirmish Warfare + Skirmish Warfare Specialist + Warfare Link Specialist + Minmatar Defensive Subsystems

Items that effect a loki boosters gang link effectiveness;

Skirmish Warfare Mindlink.

To fit more than 1 link on a loki booster, you will need warefare link specialist to 5, then use +1 Command Processor per link.

Basically, there are no near perfect boosters. There are boosters that, while better than nothing, are terrible. And boosters that have the prereqs mentioned above at 5 so they can use command processors and mindlinks, which as long as they have the t3 defensive subsystem for the relevant race to 5, is a perfect booster.

This applies to all other boosters;

Armour Warfare = Legion

Siege Warefare = Tengu

Information Warfare = Proteus

You can for example put an armour link on the Loki skirmish booster but it will be less effective than if it was on a Legion with an armoured warfare mindlink.

You could also end up flying with a loki and an armoured warfare mindlink. The loki hull defensive subsystem skill would bonus the skirmish links and the mindlink would bonus the armoured warfare links. Though neither of the type of links would be functioning near maximum.

The exact setup of your booster depends on what exactly you are flying. For example, if im flying a buffer fit, 2 out of the 3 armour links are useless since they relate to local and remote reps. Instead of using those i will use only the resistance armour link and also 2 unbonused skirmish links for speed and point range and perhaps an information warfare link to make me harder to jam.

There are lots of ways to configure your boosters and lots of opinions on how to fit them. Have fun!
L0NEWARRIOR
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-26 08:26:12 UTC
Thanks thats starting to make sense, I’m still a bit confused about how the mind links work, do you need to have the gang link modules for the mind links to work? and do the module bonuses add onto the mind links?

And what advantages does a command ship have over the t3 in boosting alt terms?
Raptors Mole
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-26 11:21:23 UTC
My preferred solution would be to drop a gnosis on the OGB and kill it. What is a boosted (or Not) frig gonna do to a missile gnosis? But CCP is still protecting these precious little flowers - I mean elite PvP solo pilots.

-1 CCP for that.
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#5 - 2013-06-26 12:28:53 UTC
Just get a Falcon and loldishonor!
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#6 - 2013-06-26 12:49:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Raptors Mole wrote:
My preferred solution would be to drop a gnosis on the OGB and kill it. What is a boosted (or Not) frig gonna do to a missile gnosis? But CCP is still protecting these precious little flowers - I mean elite PvP solo pilots.

-1 CCP for that.


Well, since my booster has over a year in boosting related skills, i dont see why lazy folk think it will be ok to probe it down with a 3 week old buddy account with 700k SP.

Get your prober training if thats what you want to do, theres a lot of mobile non possed up boosters out there. Happy hunting.

L0NEWARRIOR wrote:
Thanks thats starting to make sense, I’m still a bit confused about how the mind links work, do you need to have the gang link modules for the mind links to work? and do the module bonuses add onto the mind links?

And what advantages does a command ship have over the t3 in boosting alt terms?


The mindlink is an implant for slot 10. It gives a bonus to all links fitted to the booster of its own category. So a Skirmish Warfare Mindlink will effect skirmish links fitted to any titan, carrier, tech 3, command ship or battlecruiser no matter how many of them you have.
An Armored Warfare Mindlink for example will have no effect on the skirmish links fitted to any ship, but will bonus armoured links fitted to any of the above ships.

To get maximum boosts, you have to stack these bonuses;

Loki + Skirmish Links + Skirmish Mindlink
Legion + Armoured Links + Armoured Mindlink etc.

There are times where it makes a lot of sense to mix and match your mindlink and link types depending on what exactly you are flying or flying against. But that is for your to figure out.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2013-06-26 13:10:43 UTC
Links.. So broken that their badness is viral..

Sigh..

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#8 - 2013-06-26 13:16:56 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Links.. So broken that their badness is viral..

Sigh..


I find fighting people who have links, with my links are better fights. Makes more fits viable. Opens up wider envelopes of engagement.

I also use my links to engage multiple targets and find myself fighting 1v5 ot 1v10 nearly every day.

Usually, people who complain really only do so because the links prevented them from fleeing from a fight they thought they could GTFO from if it went wrong.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#9 - 2013-06-26 13:44:13 UTC
Try that **** without links and not only is it fun...it becomes a challenge.
Oh wait this is OGB Online, who the **** wants a challenge, amiright?

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


I find fighting people who have links, with my links are better fights. Makes more fits viable. Opens up wider envelopes of engagement.

I also use my links to engage multiple targets and find myself fighting 1v5 ot 1v10 nearly every day.

Usually, people who complain really only do so because the links prevented them from fleeing from a fight they thought they could GTFO from if it went wrong.

nom nom

Death ToU
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-06-26 13:53:45 UTC
But your name is LONEWARRIOR I just don't get it!
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#11 - 2013-06-26 14:12:54 UTC
Death ToU wrote:
But your name is LONEWARRIOR I just don't get it!

Heh!

It's much more fun to just outplay bads who rely on links. Refuse to be a part of the problem!

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#12 - 2013-06-26 14:55:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Try that **** without links and not only is it fun...it becomes a challenge.
Oh wait this is OGB Online, who the **** wants a challenge, amiright?

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


I find fighting people who have links, with my links are better fights. Makes more fits viable. Opens up wider envelopes of engagement.

I also use my links to engage multiple targets and find myself fighting 1v5 ot 1v10 nearly every day.

Usually, people who complain really only do so because the links prevented them from fleeing from a fight they thought they could GTFO from if it went wrong.



Challenging was me tackling a dual propped loki boosted HG snaked dram that was considerably faster than me in my 13m isk scram maulus. All you guys do is blob people with 10mn coercers. Hardly a challenge specuially since you have 4 corp standing boosters running links from posses across 3 systems. But it all has its place. At least my booster is potentially a target.

Without boosts, my maulus would just die to the first drone that came along.
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#13 - 2013-06-26 15:18:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
Holy ****, I wasn't even insulting you for being bad at pvp and your going to get all uptight about it? Lots of folks in my corp use boosts. What does that have to do with me?

Crosi Wesdo wrote:

Challenging was me tackling a dual propped loki boosted HG snaked dram that was considerably faster than me in my 13m isk scram maulus. All you guys do is blob people with 10mn coercers. Hardly a challenge specuially since you have 4 corp standing boosters running links from posses across 3 systems. But it all has its place. At least my booster is potentially a target.

Without boosts, my maulus would just die to the first drone that came along.


You stated you use boosts because you have to in order to fight outnumbered and such. I simply said it far more rewarding to fight like that without boosts.

nom nom

L0NEWARRIOR
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-26 15:46:59 UTC
Death ToU wrote:
But your name is LONEWARRIOR I just don't get it!


As I said if you cant beat em join em :)

There was one guy with 4 boosting alts camping our home system, fighting him was like taking on 7 or 8 ships at once. Just insanity!
Eliram Kahoudi
Big Fluffy Bunnies
#15 - 2013-06-26 17:34:08 UTC
boosting doesnt increase dps. so no no it isnt
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#16 - 2013-06-26 18:23:26 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Try that **** without links and not only is it fun...it becomes a challenge.
Oh wait this is OGB Online, who the **** wants a challenge, amiright?

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


I find fighting people who have links, with my links are better fights. Makes more fits viable. Opens up wider envelopes of engagement.

I also use my links to engage multiple targets and find myself fighting 1v5 ot 1v10 nearly every day.

Usually, people who complain really only do so because the links prevented them from fleeing from a fight they thought they could GTFO from if it went wrong.



Challenging was me tackling a dual propped loki boosted HG snaked dram that was considerably faster than me in my 13m isk scram maulus. All you guys do is blob people with 10mn coercers. Hardly a challenge specuially since you have 4 corp standing boosters running links from posses across 3 systems. .


I would say qcats is one of the least blobby corps in low sec. In fact I think the only time I was "blobbed" fighting them, was when I choose to fight right on their station.

Crosi Wesdo wrote:


But it all has its place. At least my booster is potentially a target..


Your stretching the meaning of "potentially" How many have you lost?

Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Without boosts, my maulus would just die to the first drone that came along.


I'm not so sure. The maulus you fly is good due to the dampening and the way you use your drones. Sure if you didn't have the loki it wouldn't be so easy. But it still might work.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#17 - 2013-06-26 18:33:14 UTC
I only undocked in the vindi to screw over chats BC points :p

Cearain wrote:

I would say qcats is one of the least blobby corps in low sec. In fact I think the only time I was "blobbed" fighting them, was when I choose to fight right on their station.

nom nom

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
#18 - 2013-06-26 18:38:12 UTC  |  Edited by: chatgris
Princess Nexxala wrote:
I only undocked in the vindi to screw over chats BC points :p

Cearain wrote:

I would say qcats is one of the least blobby corps in low sec. In fact I think the only time I was "blobbed" fighting them, was when I choose to fight right on their station.



With corpmates like these, who needs enemies?

PS: Rank 21 vs 29. Bring it!
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#19 - 2013-06-26 18:40:47 UTC
Bah i hardly play, you should be top 10 by now you scrub!


chatgris wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
I only undocked in the vindi to screw over chats BC points :p

Cearain wrote:

I would say qcats is one of the least blobby corps in low sec. In fact I think the only time I was "blobbed" fighting them, was when I choose to fight right on their station.



With corpmates like these, who needs enemies?

PS: Rank 21 vs 29. Bring it!



nom nom

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#20 - 2013-06-26 20:17:24 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
I only undocked in the vindi to screw over chats BC points :p

Cearain wrote:

I would say qcats is one of the least blobby corps in low sec. In fact I think the only time I was "blobbed" fighting them, was when I choose to fight right on their station.



I doubt it, because if that were the case you would have let me kill him.


Anyway, who said I was even referring to that fight as an example of your blobbing? I assumed that was qcat's business as usual.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815

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