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Anth9rax
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-06 18:06:51 UTC
Ok so three days flying around low sec (loads of belts) and i have found 2 npcs to get security tags, this is also the number of faction rats I have killed.

So is the spawn rate the same as faction rats, I was hoping to just get the tags myself to get my status up but if its that low there no chance.

And given how many tags you need to increase your sec there isn't exactly many on market either.

Think you need a bit of an adjustment there.

Anth
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2013-06-06 18:12:34 UTC
Anth9rax wrote:
Think you need a bit of an adjustment there.
…assuming it was meant to be easy and painless.
Anth9rax
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-06 18:16:37 UTC
3 days for 2 tags with quite a few hours a day is a bit much, don't mind a little pain but come on.

I have gained more sec from the bs rats when looking for tags than from the tags that i got, that cant be right.
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
#4 - 2013-06-06 18:16:48 UTC
If they made the tags abundant and easy to get your sec status back up, here's how the scenario would play out:

-9.0 pirate spends all day ratting and collecting security tags
-9.0 pirate gets his sec status back up to 0.0
-9.0 pirate (now 0.0) spends all day shanking players in high sec
Pirate is now back to -9.0 sec status
Rinse
Repeat
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#5 - 2013-06-06 18:20:41 UTC
Its not supposed to be easier. Its supposed to give a new method: Pay someone else to do it.

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Anth9rax
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-06 18:21:14 UTC
QuakeGod wrote:
If they made the tags abundant and easy to get your sec status back up, here's how the scenario would play out:

-9.0 pirate spends all day ratting and collecting security tags
-9.0 pirate gets his sec status back up to 0.0
-9.0 pirate (now 0.0) spends all day shanking players in high sec
Pirate is now back to -9.0 sec status
Rinse
Repeat



All day to get 25 tag to get to 0 is too much, but 3 days for 2 is too low.

There is plenty room in the middle.
Anth9rax
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-06-06 18:28:36 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Its not supposed to be easier. Its supposed to give a new method: Pay someone else to do it.


As for pay I estimate 12 hours for 2 tags, thats a low estimate too. so 1 tag every 6 hours, the high end tag is 150m atm so thats 25m/hr for flying around a lot of low sec, low end tags are 20m or 3.3m/hr. not exactly a lot.

But more to the point if one pirate uses 25 tags I don't think theres enough on whole market after 3 days and low sec has been really busy since patch.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#8 - 2013-06-06 18:33:18 UTC
Wait more than 3 days for people to learn to farm this new feature.

The market will be flooded with those new fangled tags within a few months. Until then, enjoy your ratting experience.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2013-06-06 18:37:26 UTC
I have to stop you right now. It is not supposed to be easy to find as stated above, it would get terribly abused. Also you might be ratting in an area with a lot of traffic. I am up to 12 tags right now after flying around for a few hours in a dead area of low, hell I found two tags in the same system within five minutes.

I think your patience is in need of a adjustment. I would be horrified if these tags were very easy to find.
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
#10 - 2013-06-06 19:12:33 UTC
Gritz1 wrote:
I have to stop you right now. It is not supposed to be easy to find as stated above, it would get terribly abused. Also you might be ratting in an area with a lot of traffic. I am up to 12 tags right now after flying around for a few hours in a dead area of low, hell I found two tags in the same system within five minutes.

I think your patience is in need of a adjustment. I would be horrified if these tags were very easy to find.



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Zircon Dasher
#11 - 2013-06-06 19:35:33 UTC
Anth9rax wrote:
Ok so three days flying around low sec (loads of belts) and i have found 2 npcs to get security tags, this is also the number of faction rats I have killed.

So is the spawn rate the same as faction rats, I was hoping to just get the tags myself to get my status up but if its that low there no chance.

And given how many tags you need to increase your sec there isn't exactly many on market either.

Think you need a bit of an adjustment there.

Anth


1)Don't roam. You need to farm to maximize spawn rates over the long term. Do full kills of each spawn in 2-3 systems.
2)Expect current spawn rate to be adjusted in the a month or two.
3)Have fun flying tags around or buying your tags back at a higher price if you sold them anywhere but at station.
4)Have fun spending more time ratting than previously.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.
Alien Youth
The forsaken swarm
#12 - 2013-06-06 19:41:31 UTC
im finding one about every 15-20 min.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2013-06-06 20:08:25 UTC
here I thought pirates were supposed to be tough and determined.. sigh.. just carebears in wolves clothing Blink
Amanda Chelian
#14 - 2013-06-06 20:13:48 UTC
Anth9rax wrote:
3 days for 2 tags with quite a few hours a day is a bit much, don't mind a little pain but come on.

I have gained more sec from the bs rats when looking for tags than from the tags that i got, that cant be right.


This alone should make you realize that tags are an aditional avenue to recover sec status, but not the ultimate "I can ignore all other forms of sec status farming now" feature you were looking for. It was unreasonable of you to assume that CCP was just going to trivialize the consequences of going -10.0.

Keep roaming those belts killing BS rats as usual, and be thankful for the extra boost when you run into tag NPCs.
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#15 - 2013-06-06 20:14:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Xuixien
QuakeGod wrote:
If they made the tags abundant and easy to get your sec status back up, here's how the scenario would play out:

-9.0 pirate spends all day ratting and collecting security tags
-9.0 pirate gets his sec status back up to 0.0
-9.0 pirate (now 0.0) spends all day shanking players in high sec
Pirate is now back to -9.0 sec status
Rinse
Repeat


No, that's not how it would work.

Suicide gankers don't need Security Status to suicide gank, as they're only on grid for a few seconds and use an alt to scout their target.

EDIT:

BTW, A Sealth bomber a cloaky T3... you can get your sec status from -10 to -1.9999 in 10 hours...

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Dez Affinity
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-06-06 20:20:24 UTC
Anth9rax wrote:
Ok so three days flying around low sec (loads of belts) and i have found 2 npcs to get security tags, this is also the number of faction rats I have killed.

So is the spawn rate the same as faction rats, I was hoping to just get the tags myself to get my status up but if its that low there no chance.

And given how many tags you need to increase your sec there isn't exactly many on market either.

Think you need a bit of an adjustment there.

Anth



I've found 12 tags and I haven't even been looking.
Riker Atros
Splash Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#17 - 2013-06-25 16:40:02 UTC
Anth9rax wrote:
QuakeGod wrote:
If they made the tags abundant and easy to get your sec status back up, here's how the scenario would play out:

-9.0 pirate spends all day ratting and collecting security tags
-9.0 pirate gets his sec status back up to 0.0
-9.0 pirate (now 0.0) spends all day shanking players in high sec
Pirate is now back to -9.0 sec status
Rinse
Repeat



All day to get 25 tag to get to 0 is too much, but 3 days for 2 is too low.

There is plenty room in the middle.



then quite complaining and stop being a butt pirate.


ENOUGH SAID DUH, if you aren't a dousche then you wouldnt care no would you.
Riker Atros
Splash Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2013-06-25 16:42:16 UTC
Amanda Chelian wrote:
Anth9rax wrote:
3 days for 2 tags with quite a few hours a day is a bit much, don't mind a little pain but come on.

I have gained more sec from the bs rats when looking for tags than from the tags that i got, that cant be right.


This alone should make you realize that tags are an aditional avenue to recover sec status, but not the ultimate "I can ignore all other forms of sec status farming now" feature you were looking for. It was unreasonable of you to assume that CCP was just going to trivialize the consequences of going -10.0.

Keep roaming those belts killing BS rats as usual, and be thankful for the extra boost when you run into tag NPCs.



THATS right, its just another boost/ method to help out, A LITTLE. although pirating is an aspect in the game, EVERYONE other than other pirates pretty much frown upon it, so why would they make it so easy to do so for the few players that need it... to **** off the other players (majority) ya your smart.


you got your self a -9.0 sec status now get your self out.
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
#19 - 2013-06-25 16:43:18 UTC
It's fine. If you live in low-sec you see them quite often. I guess you're unlucky.
Riker Atros
Splash Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2013-06-25 16:46:39 UTC
Anna Djan wrote:
It's fine. If you live in low-sec you see them quite often. I guess you're unlucky.



actually ya, and 20 tags is nothing for full neg 10 to 0. lol its .5 per tag lmao, thats HUGE in most instances other than -10 lol

is just that you need the certain types to cross the threshold of each 2 steps in sec status.
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