EVE General Discussion

i heard Elyham runs a mining buddy program. you guys should look into it.

'Kill the attacker.'

Sure you will. In hisec, there will be nothing to kill. They'll have ganked, been CONCORDed, and warped off. You might get their suspect pod, but probably not. They'll have their lulz, and you'll be dishing out to return those deposits.

In low and null, you'll maybe kill a tackle ship, but be completely impotent versus whatever sniping vessels or bombers they've warped in at range to pop both the barges, and then some of you.

Sell shield extenders and DC IIs to miners. You'll be doing them a greater service.

Ampire miners keep prices down on the goods you need the most, ever look out how manie items use tritanium? like all of them bro.

Seriously why do you put up with all this crap?

Move out of hisec.

Wormholes, Low, Null.

I can't keep the damn Ore sites from shitting up my WH, I trigger them every day but no sooner has 1 de-spawned another one shows up.

[quote=Domanique Altares

Sell shield extenders and DC IIs to miners. You'll be doing them a greater service. [/quote]

Very true. Unfortunately in my experience, miners simply don't get it. The mining barge rebalance was a huge boon to miners. Now they could have a reasonable tank and a reasonable cargo hold. Unfortunately, many miners have chosen to ignore the options open to them for tanking and simple fit a max yield ship and wonder why they die.

Essentially this. People who do that are something beyond miners, or carebears, or loweseccers or whatever.

They're idiots.

And idiots deserve to die.

Mining is easy if you accept the following basic principles.

1. There is no such thing as safe space.
2. There is no such thing as safe space.
3. If in doubt see #'s 1 & 2.
4. Always check your six (paranoia and d-scan ftw),
5. Never AFK anything.
6. Don't ****-fit your mining ships. Tank accordingly.
7. Don't be an asshat after getting ganked. (See #5)
8. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
9. The CODE is Law.

Don't fly Retriever/Covetor or Mack/Hulk unless you know how to tank them. Don't think in terms of max yield, but rather in terms of balance/survivability. You can get loads of EHP from a properly tanked Procurer or Skiff. Make yourself a "non-target" or somewhat of an undesirable gank-magnet and understand that gankers/"code-enforcers" use scouts to scan you before they gank you. They don't chase after or gank those that will survive.

Number 8 is the most common mistake. You have mined and skilled to a certain level allowing you to finally buy (invest) that first Exhumer but you absolutely refuse to put enough EHP on it. Sorry, but you Sir or Madam are an asshat of the first order.

If you can't understand this, then pay the fee to the New Order or whomever is making your life in EVE hazardous to get them off your back.

make an alt put him in a t1 logi cruiser, problem solved. ive been mining for years in hs on my alts not one of them have been suicide ganked.

Somebody will probably correct that oversight in the near future, and the T1 logi won't save you, it'll probably explode at around the same time.

Mining in wormholes, low and null is too hard, once the pvp griefers know it, they'll camp 23/7 with cloaky scouts, black ops hot drops and more.

You need a staging fleet with 5 to 15 members on standby with fighter ships in order to counter that, which will nobody be doing.

I mean, you can stil pull it off with scouts out, and try to have a mining ops with macks and orca's. But it's just to far risky.

Imagine if Mackinaws costs 1500 isk, you would see loads of them in nullsec, mining.