Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Trial accounts are time-limited and using them as scouts is a bannable breach of TOS. They specifically have a rule against using trial accounts to further the ingame activities of your main account.

Your idea would mean permanent free scouts for everyone forever. As well as masses of multiboxed alts flying masses of super-disposable rookie ships.

I'll tell you who else loves free-to-play. Botters and RMT companies. Zero investment to start making buckets of ISK.

so you would play a game with a single trial character forever, which cant do this and that and all fun things - a pretty limited eve experience IMO, what ingame activities would YOU personally wish such F2P version for?

You might be right. It may be that this is TOO restrictive for the experienced player, and they will want to pay for EVERY account.

If that is true, then it seems like that is a good thing. The game can still be marketed as Free-to-play. You can technically do anything, and everything that a paying player can do, without paying, forever. But, in practice, it's cumbersome and time-consuming, and you're better off paying.

Isn't that the IDEAL description of a Free-to-play game? You play as long as you want, for free, until you get hooked, and pay for the conveniences available by paying for the game?

And, again, for somebody who is willing to live within the restrictions, or must... They can still play, for as long as they want.

That fits the ideal description of free-to-play games as described by the best and most accomplished designers out there.

As I mentioned though, that's geared towards players with a LOT of time to devote to the game, and in particular, their activities have to be profit-oriented. This is a F2P model that lets people play in alliance warfare, or other ways that aren't so devoted to earning isk.

It's better for the casual player, who only logs on once a week, it's better for alliance warfare, it's better for almost everything, EXCEPT those super-profit activites like mining and missioning. And, they already have thieir F2P model: Plex. Let's focus on some people we WANT in the game, not the ones who have already got a free ride.

Yep. We just discussed that a few posts back. Let's keep that.
Problem solved.

A F2P player could pilot a titan/mothership. Actually, that'd be somewhat ideal for a super pilot, since they can't dock anyway and are already highly trained. But, a super pilot almost CERTAINLY has an alt that they use for all their non-super activities.

A F2P player could run deadspace complex, or assist their friends with missions in a Marauder (if their friend accepts the missions, and they never dock), or run with the Incursion crowd in a marauder (Admittedly, they'd have to be good, never die, and never dock).

The definition of F2P is that you can do everything you can do by paying, it's just less convenient. This is EXACTLY that, with the added bonus: You need a friend to "release" you from a station if you're free, and piloting a restricted ship. Meaning... if you want to be F2P, you better have friends. :D


This is it. Give me some time to reply dude. :D

Basically, if you can work around the undock problem yourself, then you can do whatever you want. CCP should monitor HOW people exploit around the restriction, and possibly add more rules (as simple and un-restricting as possible), but in general, it should be known that it is INTENDED that you should exploit your way around that, and it's just there for the convenience factor of paying.

yeah sounds pretty broken and pain in the ass to implement.

Implementation:
Part of my idea is that it's simple to implement.
You put an inventory check on undocking. That's it.

EVE Forums could really use some sort of "Dislike" or "Hate" button... If nothing else, it would be nice to see how unpopular certain posts or topics really are.

The SP post was a troll :/ that is the amount of SP you can get during a 2 week trial.
Free to play is bad for a game and a short term F2P is usually a last ditch effort to get subs.
Now to debunk your thread, I currently have 44m SP, 160 skill injected and only 17 of those cant be trained on trial accounts most of which are only to level 4 at most, some are still untrained and only 3 are to level 5.