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Launch Drones key? no problem (well, its work in progress)

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DSpite Culhach
#1 - 2013-06-22 13:06:08 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
-- exe removd from DP, since someone has already decided to "report" me, might as well see what happens with that - welcome to eve - I'll supply the EXE to ccp manually if they want to see it

For the record, it was meant to be funny more then anything else. Sad reminder of what people in here are like sometimes.

BIG DISCLAIMER :

* I'd really like to get CCP to say something on this. I don't think I'm "macroing' by doing this. CCP MAY NOT AGREE, if they say "dont" then ... well, I wont continue this, as I really wanted to make a more complex Drone GUI, or maybe it will make CCP make one instead.

* I'm pretty sure that ISBoxer can automate a hell of a lot more stuff then this quick hack. That's why I got the idea in my head.



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60963187/EVE_Drone_GUI.exe - hopefully this link works

This is what happens when you get a weird idea in your head.
For the record, this is a quick hack in VB.Net.

* It has to be used in a "windowed" copy of EVE
* Stays on top of the current drone launch gui
* You have to position the small "button" in the top left over the the little button that calls up the Drones options (I'm using that as a reference point)
* Will only try to launch the first flight in the list.
* Don't move you mouse around when you press Launch.
* Tested on 90% and 100% UI Scaling

WHAT IT DOES:

* It duplicates the action that a user would take in doing the two mouse moves and clicks to select the "launch drones" option, the idea later was to attach it to a hotkey.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Jamagh
Grand Violations
#2 - 2013-06-22 13:12:29 UTC
I think that falls into the botting category. I would like them to implement a keyboard short cut that launches drones. If there is one, I am sorry. Have not looked for awhile.

"Please stop reopening silly rumor threads."  CCP Navigator.

Lashenadeeka
Qinglong Fleet
Jade Kirin Alliance
#3 - 2013-06-22 13:19:29 UTC
Definitely botting. You just press that button and your drones will launch, then finish the mission for you. Reported. I hope you enjoy your ban.
DSpite Culhach
#4 - 2013-06-22 13:24:38 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
Lashenadeeka wrote:
Definitely botting. You just press that button and your drones will launch, then finish the mission for you. Reported. I hope you enjoy your ban.


What? All it does is launch a flight. Pleae explain "finish mission for you" ???

EDIT: Im not using it if I get flak from CCP, I only used it for 10 minutes to test it worked anyway. Gees.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#5 - 2013-06-22 14:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Schmata Bastanold
Even if you get banned maybe it will be for greater good because devs may finally realize that shortcut is really REALLY needed. Maybe one of them will even break out of "legacy code madness" excuse they sing every time something useful is requested by community and implement that two-liner.

EDIT:

Trivialization of a problem which drones shortcut should launch is intended Twisted

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DSpite Culhach
#6 - 2013-06-22 14:19:11 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Even if you get banned maybe it will be for greater good because devs may finally realize that shortcut is really REALLY needed. Maybe one of them will even break out of "legacy code madness" excuse they sing every time something useful is requested by community and implement that two-liner.


All it had was one button, that required a physical mouse press to shorten two mouse clicks into one.

I have no idea why it feels like i have started Wold War Two.

There's guys out there pressing one key in ISBoxer and having 10 battleships all fire on one target, and that seems to be "all good". I felt quite safe that pressing a button by hand was not macroing. Macroing is an automated process that happens without user intervention.

It didn't automate anything, It's the same as if a person did "right click", then "launch drones" when you click the single "launch" key AND only on the first set on the list.

My goodness people get uptight.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Zircon Dasher
#7 - 2013-06-22 14:54:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Zircon Dasher
DSpite Culhach wrote:


There's guys out there pressing one key in ISBoxer and having 10 battleships all fire on one target, and that seems to be "all good".


A relevant difference is that ISBoxer only decreases the number of "clicks" per player and not number of clicks per character. Your workaround decreases the number of clicks per character.

On the flip side, CCP does allow keyboards and mice with "macro" functions (unless that has changed?) which could decrease the number of "clicks" per character in certain situations.

GL on this though.

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

CanI haveyourstuff
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-06-22 15:01:56 UTC  |  Edited by: CanI haveyourstuff
CCP should get their **** together and fix drone UI already, it's been broken GOD DAMN NINE THOUSAND YEARS already.











Bear
DSpite Culhach
#9 - 2013-06-22 15:06:02 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
Zircon Dasher wrote:
DSpite Culhach wrote:


There's guys out there pressing one key in ISBoxer and having 10 battleships all fire on one target, and that seems to be "all good".


A relevant difference is that ISBoxer only decreases the number of "clicks" per player and not number of clicks per character. Your workaround decreases the number of clicks per character.

On the flip side, CCP does allow keyboards and mice with "macro" functions (unless that has changed?) which could decrease the number of "clicks" per character in certain situations.

GL on this though.


Its apparently fine for a G15 to say, press F1-F2-F3-F4-F5 in order to light up hardeners upon leaving a station. Pretty sure that decreases number of clicks per player, but needs a player to start the process. Considering I had to physically position my mouse and press a button on a form, I had pretty much assumed I was ok.

EDIT:

Anyway, I "reported" myself already. In retrospect I should have emailed CCP directly. It was meant to be a proof of concept that all we would like to have is something tied to launching flights, since most people would be happy with the ability to launch their single flight (in non drone-ey ships) without taking their eyes off the action, and finding hot spots on a menu.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

DSpite Culhach
#10 - 2013-06-22 15:24:12 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
Forgot to mention. Only reason I was screwing around in vb.net was because I put together a program that parses the player side chat and game logs to generate concentrated intel.

I've set up the entire Providence region so that whenever anything is said in channels that produce files on disk - meaning you have to be allowed in the channels in game - regarding the system you're in and any systems one jump way, you get that line of text in a box, so you can see at a glance if those systems had recent activity that might have already scrolled off in the chat window.

Since this thread is going pear shaped anyway, I'd appreciate feedback on weather people would consider this program useful.
I had found one called "EVE Intel Monitor" that did a similar thing, but it looks abandoned.

I once again want to point out that it just reads text files that already exist on your own hard drive, and still works when you are offline, just wont have anything with datestamps past the time you disconnected.

... pretty sure this one is safe.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Bloody Wench
#11 - 2013-06-22 16:49:43 UTC
I applaud your efforts, but don't think CCP are going to like this.

No Sir, not one bit.

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Zircon Dasher
#12 - 2013-06-22 17:06:42 UTC
You might get better info (or the thread shut down faster) if you post in EVE Technology Lab

Nerfing High-sec is never the answer. It is the question. The answer is 'YES'.

Kewso
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-22 17:41:39 UTC
I downloaded isboxer from piratebay, didn't feel like paying for the crap to be on equal footing

but I dont see any difference between isboxer can do and this

hell isboxer can launch drones on dozens of accounts at the same time and have them all target a single enemy with 1 mouse click


1 mouse click on isboxer can unleash 100's of drones instantly and attack any target ya wish with a single click

so if isboxer is fine this is nothing compared to it.



but definitely don't pay for isboxer, grab it off kickasstorrents or piratebay
Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#14 - 2013-06-22 19:03:26 UTC
When customers are making the game itself. What do we need CCP for? =)
DSpite Culhach
#15 - 2013-06-23 00:47:33 UTC
Bloody Wench wrote:
I applaud your efforts, but don't think CCP are going to like this.

No Sir, not one bit.


You mean reading files off disk? or the having to click a button to launch drones? Getting a bit confusing in here.

If you mean the first one. I made a button that does a double click. Life imprisonment seems a bit harsh for making a button.

If you meant the second, that's even more insane. The chat log files are created from what PLAYERS are actually TYPING in a channel, and pretty sure the purpose of a log file is so you can read through something that happened in the past.

If EVE did not create log data of chat records, the same result could be made by having players have an intel chat channel on Mumble or IRC or another chat program that ALSO generates log files of the chats, and my program would work just as well. Exactly the same, in fact, as it's just a fancy string finder. Next you might want to ban "grep" and regular expressions, pretty sure those could be more powerful then my tool in the wrong hands.

I have 190 megabytes of EVE logs on my hard drive. Excuse me for finding a constructive use of normally junk data.

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What most people seems not to understand of this game is that most of the content in EVE is actually the flesh and blood players, not "missions" or "exploration", people. By paying money, logging on, and pumping massive amount of our time into this game, we are either creating targets for other people to shoot at, or enabling them to jump into ships to blow other people up.

I pumped 600 hours into Global Agenda, and that was just being in-game, logged in. In one year in EVE, I made that number irrelevant, if you consider the total hours in time spent researching the game, learning to use tools like EVEMon, staring at spreadsheets in order to make sense of the market, and asking people questions in game until they wanted to strangle me.

I threw together a couple of tools to make EVE make more sense. I was not expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

DSpite Culhach
#16 - 2013-06-23 00:51:49 UTC  |  Edited by: DSpite Culhach
Zircon Dasher wrote:
You might get better info (or the thread shut down faster) if you post in EVE Technology Lab


I actually would have posted there to start with. I do go looking for a better forum name, but that one escaped me. My bad.

I would ask for this thread to get moved there, but I am not sure by this stage what order of magnitude crapquake I might have created, so we shall see what happens.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-06-23 01:02:11 UTC
Why are people posting hacks on the OFFICAL page of the game normally you go to the mmowned site or such.

This is just stupid in every language.

Thank You Obama!

DSpite Culhach
#18 - 2013-06-23 01:08:01 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
Why are people posting hacks on the OFFICAL page of the game normally you go to the mmowned site or such.

This is just stupid in every language.


No EVE client files were modified.
No code injections took place.
No automation is in place.

Pretty sure alarmists like you are the reason for why witch hunts are started.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-06-23 01:10:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Skill Training Online
DSpite Culhach wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
Why are people posting hacks on the OFFICAL page of the game normally you go to the mmowned site or such.

This is just stupid in every language.


No EVE client files were modified.
No code injections took place.
No automation is in place.

Pretty sure alarmists like you are the reason for why witch hunts are started.


I am pretty sure the only way I can happily keep playing this game is if those with callous disregard for the spirit of the rules are banned and their corporations fined heavily for supporting exploitation of intents.

There must be no distinction between hackers and the corporations that support them.

Thank You Obama!

DSpite Culhach
#20 - 2013-06-23 01:21:38 UTC
Skill Training Online wrote:
DSpite Culhach wrote:
Skill Training Online wrote:
Why are people posting hacks on the OFFICAL page of the game normally you go to the mmowned site or such.

This is just stupid in every language.


No EVE client files were modified.
No code injections took place.
No automation is in place.

Pretty sure alarmists like you are the reason for why witch hunts are started.


I am pretty sure the only way I can happily keep playing this game is if those with callous disregard for the spirit of the rules are banned and their corporations fined heavily for supporting exploitation of intents.

There must be no distinction between hackers and the corporations that support them.


Since you obviously have no idea of what is actually going on, it must mean that you are here just to add to drama. Lets add the fact that your posting with a toon created 3 days ago, yet you have made posts that imply you know a lot more then a 3 day old toon.

Thanks. You're really helping keeping this thread in perspective.

I apparently have no idea what I'm doing.

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