EVE General Discussion

-- exe removd from DP, since someone has already decided to "report" me, might as well see what happens with that - welcome to eve - I'll supply the EXE to ccp manually if they want to see it

For the record, it was meant to be funny more then anything else. Sad reminder of what people in here are like sometimes.

BIG DISCLAIMER :

* I'd really like to get CCP to say something on this. I don't think I'm "macroing' by doing this. CCP MAY NOT AGREE, if they say "dont" then ... well, I wont continue this, as I really wanted to make a more complex Drone GUI, or maybe it will make CCP make one instead.

* I'm pretty sure that ISBoxer can automate a hell of a lot more stuff then this quick hack. That's why I got the idea in my head.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60963187/EVE_Drone_GUI.exe - hopefully this link works

This is what happens when you get a weird idea in your head.
For the record, this is a quick hack in VB.Net.

* It has to be used in a "windowed" copy of EVE
* Stays on top of the current drone launch gui
* You have to position the small "button" in the top left over the the little button that calls up the Drones options (I'm using that as a reference point)
* Will only try to launch the first flight in the list.
* Don't move you mouse around when you press Launch.
* Tested on 90% and 100% UI Scaling

WHAT IT DOES:

* It duplicates the action that a user would take in doing the two mouse moves and clicks to select the "launch drones" option, the idea later was to attach it to a hotkey.

Definitely botting. You just press that button and your drones will launch, then finish the mission for you. Reported. I hope you enjoy your ban.

Even if you get banned maybe it will be for greater good because devs may finally realize that shortcut is really REALLY needed. Maybe one of them will even break out of "legacy code madness" excuse they sing every time something useful is requested by community and implement that two-liner.

EDIT:

Trivialization of a problem which drones shortcut should launch is intended

A relevant difference is that ISBoxer only decreases the number of "clicks" per player and not number of clicks per character. Your workaround decreases the number of clicks per character.

On the flip side, CCP does allow keyboards and mice with "macro" functions (unless that has changed?) which could decrease the number of "clicks" per character in certain situations.

GL on this though.

Its apparently fine for a G15 to say, press F1-F2-F3-F4-F5 in order to light up hardeners upon leaving a station. Pretty sure that decreases number of clicks per player, but needs a player to start the process. Considering I had to physically position my mouse and press a button on a form, I had pretty much assumed I was ok.

EDIT:

Anyway, I "reported" myself already. In retrospect I should have emailed CCP directly. It was meant to be a proof of concept that all we would like to have is something tied to launching flights, since most people would be happy with the ability to launch their single flight (in non drone-ey ships) without taking their eyes off the action, and finding hot spots on a menu.

I applaud your efforts, but don't think CCP are going to like this.

No Sir, not one bit.

I downloaded isboxer from piratebay, didn't feel like paying for the crap to be on equal footing

but I dont see any difference between isboxer can do and this

hell isboxer can launch drones on dozens of accounts at the same time and have them all target a single enemy with 1 mouse click


1 mouse click on isboxer can unleash 100's of drones instantly and attack any target ya wish with a single click

so if isboxer is fine this is nothing compared to it.



but definitely don't pay for isboxer, grab it off kickasstorrents or piratebay

You mean reading files off disk? or the having to click a button to launch drones? Getting a bit confusing in here.

If you mean the first one. I made a button that does a double click. Life imprisonment seems a bit harsh for making a button.

If you meant the second, that's even more insane. The chat log files are created from what PLAYERS are actually TYPING in a channel, and pretty sure the purpose of a log file is so you can read through something that happened in the past.

If EVE did not create log data of chat records, the same result could be made by having players have an intel chat channel on Mumble or IRC or another chat program that ALSO generates log files of the chats, and my program would work just as well. Exactly the same, in fact, as it's just a fancy string finder. Next you might want to ban "grep" and regular expressions, pretty sure those could be more powerful then my tool in the wrong hands.

I have 190 megabytes of EVE logs on my hard drive. Excuse me for finding a constructive use of normally junk data.

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What most people seems not to understand of this game is that most of the content in EVE is actually the flesh and blood players, not "missions" or "exploration", people. By paying money, logging on, and pumping massive amount of our time into this game, we are either creating targets for other people to shoot at, or enabling them to jump into ships to blow other people up.

I pumped 600 hours into Global Agenda, and that was just being in-game, logged in. In one year in EVE, I made that number irrelevant, if you consider the total hours in time spent researching the game, learning to use tools like EVEMon, staring at spreadsheets in order to make sense of the market, and asking people questions in game until they wanted to strangle me.

I threw together a couple of tools to make EVE make more sense. I was not expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

Why are people posting hacks on the OFFICAL page of the game normally you go to the mmowned site or such.

This is just stupid in every language.

I am pretty sure the only way I can happily keep playing this game is if those with callous disregard for the spirit of the rules are banned and their corporations fined heavily for supporting exploitation of intents.

There must be no distinction between hackers and the corporations that support them.