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Radial Menu - action mapping

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Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#121 - 2013-06-19 20:45:15 UTC
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Option to turn it off.

Stop avoiding this issue.

Mouse should never warp because of option selection. It should Never warp because of deselection.


hi hello (this goes for all other babies that can't figure out how to change a setting as well)

try binding it to middle mouse with max delay

thank me later for fixing your awful problems that you don't take the time to fix for yourself, but instead post on forums crying about how you're too incompetent to change a setting

thanks luv u


@ ccp karkur, watchlist radial menu and maybe in the fleet window too (adding to watchlist without right click would be awesome)
Solutio Letum
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#122 - 2013-06-20 02:05:56 UTC
No

Because its not in my drone window so it fcks me up everytime.... i want to not have to right click..... or get more hot keys... really how hard can it be? a few lines of codes....

I liked it until i realized it was not on my drones...
Donedy
Lulzsec Space
#123 - 2013-06-20 09:11:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Donedy
tbh, can we get an "off button" for this function? Kinda painful when you wanna rotate your camera and instead its this radial menu which show up....

EDIT :

CCP karkur wrote:
Kusum Fawn wrote:
Option to turn it off.

Stop avoiding this issue.

Mouse should never warp because of option selection. It should Never warp because of deselection.
We are not going to allow you to turn it off, but you can effectively do it by setting a very long delay and bind it to another mouse button you would rarely be holding down for that long.


Hmmm, okay.
Honestly, i always found this radial menu painfull to use and more like disturbing pop up showing when i dont need it.
Onnen Mentar
Murientor Tribe
#124 - 2013-06-20 10:03:56 UTC
(1) the radial menu is awesome. (I already used it before and only use it more now.)

(2) please expand on it so it works for drones.

(3) if done right, we may no longer need the "selected item" window at all anymore! I find I rarely use it these days.

Minmatar Balancing, 3 suggestions.
Karl Cobb
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#125 - 2013-06-20 10:08:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Cobb
like this radial menu.

You can already add your drones to overview and use the radial menu to controll them there.
But i also think it would be nice to have this functionality directly over the drone controll window too, because u can see the status of the drone easier here.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#126 - 2013-06-20 11:59:27 UTC
Shiuri wrote:
CCP karkur wrote:
Are there objects that you wished had a different primary action?

Planets should have a primary action of Warp To or the same functionality as the Warp To button, rather than an action that pulls up a modal dialogue right next to navigation buttons.


Modal dialogs are bad. I imagine it can get PVP'ers killed quite quickly. Maybe even a few mission runners who are unfortunate or are on an edge-of-their-competence mission.
Jalequin
Jalequin Corporation
#127 - 2013-06-20 13:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Jalequin
I just read the recent June 20 patch note and this:
Quote:
The mouse cursor behavior for radial menu has been changed and it will no longer snap to where you click when the menu closes but will rather keep its position


Why was this disabled, who complained about it?

I loved the snap to center feature. Seeing as it was just disabled, can you please make it optional? Bring it back! Sad

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#128 - 2013-06-20 14:21:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Having just now tested the new "snapless" radial, I agree with Jalequin. If there's some way to make old snapping behavior optional via checkbox in the ESC menu, sacrifice some gatecampers or nullbears or sheep if that's what it takes to make it happen.
Constance Skye
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2013-06-20 18:55:26 UTC
Add the drone commands to the radial menu.
Paul Leonard Kersey
Doomheim
#130 - 2013-06-20 21:08:35 UTC
How about you use your time to go figure out why the server crashes or has to be reset daily?
Or maybe why you can't even keep the account management page (you know where you guys get paid from) up?

The radial menu was crap before, it's crap now, and isn't worth wasting time and resources on, fix the bugs first.
Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#131 - 2013-06-20 23:11:09 UTC
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
How about you use your time to go figure out why the server crashes or has to be reset daily?
Or maybe why you can't even keep the account management page (you know where you guys get paid from) up?

The radial menu was crap before, it's crap now, and isn't worth wasting time and resources on, fix the bugs first.


Do you understand the concept of teams and scope in people's work?

Sure, if you want UI devs to be looking at server issues and web backends go right ahead.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#132 - 2013-06-21 02:32:18 UTC
Madlof Chev wrote:
Paul Leonard Kersey wrote:
How about you use your time to go figure out why the server crashes or has to be reset daily?
Or maybe why you can't even keep the account management page (you know where you guys get paid from) up?

The radial menu was crap before, it's crap now, and isn't worth wasting time and resources on, fix the bugs first.


Do you understand the concept of teams and scope in people's work?

Sure, if you want UI devs to be looking at server issues and web backends go right ahead.


Most people don't even understand that CCP even has separate departments, let alone teams within them.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#133 - 2013-06-21 02:46:47 UTC
Rytell Tybat wrote:
but I'm finding that I'm selecting "Info" a lot accidentally. I believe this is because if I decide not to use one of the radial menu items, particularly on something on my overview, then I am pulling my mouse off the radial menu to the left to try to avoid selecting anything. I'm wondering what the target area is for these buttons and if maybe it needs adjusting?


that is my only complaint, usually by the time I realize I accidentally opened the menu my mouse is halfway across the screen and it is stuck on one of the options. the rest of the time I like it!

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#134 - 2013-06-21 03:09:29 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Rytell Tybat wrote:
but I'm finding that I'm selecting "Info" a lot accidentally. I believe this is because if I decide not to use one of the radial menu items, particularly on something on my overview, then I am pulling my mouse off the radial menu to the left to try to avoid selecting anything. I'm wondering what the target area is for these buttons and if maybe it needs adjusting?


that is my only complaint, usually by the time I realize I accidentally opened the menu my mouse is halfway across the screen and it is stuck on one of the options. the rest of the time I like it!


The buttons begin at the part you can see and extend out to the edge of the screen. This allows you to need less precision when selecting them, especially during times when attention and precision are at a premium, and also what makes the "drag to change orbit/warp/keep at range" possible.

In order to avoid selecting anything, move your mouse back to the center of the menu. If necessary, practice this a few times to establish it in your mind for later. Muscle memory will follow after that.
Ruze
Next Stage Initiative
#135 - 2013-06-21 04:35:35 UTC
Honestly, I use it and the drop-menu pretty much 50/50.

I moved it over to the right mouse button, though, because the radial menu was going off almost every time I tried to adjust my camera angle.

It works and looks good. Lags out sometimes, and it's a little frustrating that it's not universal (in space, in hangar, in cq, etc). But so far, so good.

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?
Bakuhz
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#136 - 2013-06-21 07:44:06 UTC
ccp we all cry for a off button for this radila menu listen to the players the menu is double trouble for the majority.
adding new stuff to it yesteray good fine with me but '' THA OFF BUTTON PLEASE ''

Listen to the Player base or do i have to remind you of the event called INCARNA wich brought alot of protest
thbe menu is trouble i am i na fight iwant to turn my view crap menu pos up again and opens pilots bio or the station info of the current staion i mouse over while i wanted to do something mroe important get a view of my situation and fight.
now i have to close ****** windows.

they always apear in the wrong moments

so OFF BUTTON!!!

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Ruze
Next Stage Initiative
#137 - 2013-06-21 10:18:18 UTC
Bakuhz wrote:
ccp we all cry for a off button for this radila menu listen to the players the menu is double trouble for the majority.
adding new stuff to it yesteray good fine with me but '' THA OFF BUTTON PLEASE ''

Listen to the Player base or do i have to remind you of the event called INCARNA wich brought alot of protest
thbe menu is trouble i am i na fight iwant to turn my view crap menu pos up again and opens pilots bio or the station info of the current staion i mouse over while i wanted to do something mroe important get a view of my situation and fight.
now i have to close ****** windows.

they always apear in the wrong moments

so OFF BUTTON!!!


I thought you could turn it off on the options menu?

If you're driven to threaten others with harm or violence because of what they do in game, you can't separate fantasy from reality. That "griefer/thief" is probably more sane than you are. How screwed up is that?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#138 - 2013-06-21 18:31:40 UTC
Ruze wrote:
Bakuhz wrote:
ccp we all cry for a off button for this radila menu listen to the players the menu is double trouble for the majority.
adding new stuff to it yesteray good fine with me but '' THA OFF BUTTON PLEASE ''

Listen to the Player base or do i have to remind you of the event called INCARNA wich brought alot of protest
thbe menu is trouble i am i na fight iwant to turn my view crap menu pos up again and opens pilots bio or the station info of the current staion i mouse over while i wanted to do something mroe important get a view of my situation and fight.
now i have to close ****** windows.

they always apear in the wrong moments

so OFF BUTTON!!!


I thought you could turn it off on the options menu?
No bud, you can only set the delay to it's highest. CCP have said we will not get a 'turn it off' option. Options are way too twentieth century, to be considered it seems.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#139 - 2013-06-21 18:52:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Honestly. Every time people don't get whatever it is they demand and get it delivered to on a silver platter the instant they demand it, they threaten with unsubs and scream "INCARNA, INCARNA" as if it's some sort of terrifying battle cry. I honestly believe there are people who believe that paying a subscription fee gives you ownership of CCP and of its employees.

I wouldn't listen to those people either.

You aren't getting an "off button" for every single new feature, especially not when they replace core functionality. Pretend for a single second that you're a mature adult and move it to middle mouse at max delay instead of throwing a two-year-old's hissy fit.

Grow up or get out.
Behnid Arcani
The Lucky Rogers
#140 - 2013-06-23 05:03:41 UTC
Can we get the Info option and the Look At option switched around?

Looking at what guns my enemy has is more urgent than reading flavour text about his hull. With the mapping as it is, I have to go through a sub-menu to get to Look at my enemy.