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Recommended path for starting in industry?
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Belt Ataru
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-21 12:34:46 UTC
I've been playing for about 3 weeks now and I'm evaluating which career path I should focus on. All paths interest me to some point so it's not an easy decision and the fact that skill training takes so much time means that it's much more efficient to start when you know the path ahead.

I'm playing solo for the meantime. The reason being that I like to have freedom to do what *I* want at all times and I also prefer to learn from the bottom up. When you are in a group you will often be pushed to doing things the way the group does or recommends simply because it is much more efficient that way. I'm willing to ignore that efficiency boost for the sake of learning on my own.

I've done a lot of reading already so I already know the most important concepts, what I'm mostly lacking is understanding of the market and it's possibilities. What I'd like to know is what options I have in industry, what the recommend path to take is ("start by building T1 abc while you're training xyz") and also what are some limits that my choice to start solo implies ("your isk/hour will be much lower because you can't xxx").

Thanks for your help!
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#2 - 2013-06-21 12:45:03 UTC
Sir Nuke
The Vacation Corporation
#3 - 2013-06-21 12:55:17 UTC
I'd suggest you start with mining. It will make the isk you need to start in the industry, and after a while if you feel like it you can start a T1 manufacturing business with the ore you are extracting. By then you will have a better grasp of whats going on and will be free to choose a new job Pirate
Brelan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-21 13:03:48 UTC
You need capital to start industry. I just recently started and bought 300m worth of Blueprints and minerals.

Having your own minerals would really kickstart your operation.

Start with things that move around alot and are cheap like Ammo/Drones/Mining crystals. With low skills you will make more money/hour mining but as your skills progress and you can produce more things at the same time your capital will increase inabling you to buy bigger and better blueprints.

It's a long climb to the big bucks. Slower than mining, tons slower than trading but a lot safer.
AlphaOperative Altren
Alternative Rendition
#5 - 2013-06-21 13:46:45 UTC
Probably get flamed for this but personally I dont think industry is a first career choice. It takes a lot of ISK, experience and organisation to do it properly. Not to mention skills and standings.


Obviously if you think you can make it work then have-at-it, but id probably start out trading and mission running. This will put a few iskies in your pocket, start off your standings grind for a pos & show you the mechanics of buying and selling which will ultimately help you out when you come to start your empire.

Nobody ever figures out what life is all about, and it doesn't matter. Explore the world. Nearly everything is really interesting if you go into it deeply enough. ― Richard P. Feynman
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-06-21 14:09:54 UTC  |  Edited by: P3po
Yea, it can be hard for very young pilot.

But if you really wanna go for it, I would sugest going for some T1 ammo/drones probably and focus to get into T2 manufacturing of ammo soon .... you don't need much ISK and skills to start producing those and it can do some nice profit for begining :D And then get more capital and go to something bigger ... T2 ships, capital ships, etc.

For the ammo ... good thing is you can get from PI 60% of the materials required to build the missiles, so you don't need that much cash in begining :)
Termy Rockling
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-06-22 07:27:26 UTC
Just be VERY careful with those "free" minerals you mine yourself, in many cases of ammo/drones/randomT1 stuff you can actually earn more or almost same with no added work by just selling rocks.
P3po
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-06-22 11:03:57 UTC
Of course .... what I do .... even if I mine the minerals by myself, I allways calculate the profitability with Jita Sell order prices. If it is still profitable, I go for it.
Eric Raeder
No Fee Too High
#9 - 2013-06-22 21:35:57 UTC
If you just want to make stuff and sell it, don't mess with manufacturing as such. Get into planetary interaction. It is much easier to train for than conventional manufacturing, takes way less investment, doesn't require lab access or massive spreadsheet research comparing costs and sales prices. Set up a vertically integrated PI network, where you extract your own resources before processing them into salable goods, and you can't lose money the way you can in conventional manufacturing if you don't watch costs like a hawk.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#10 - 2013-06-22 23:55:45 UTC
Start with small things, like small rigs, probes, ammo etc.

Get into atleast SOME trading, because you wont always be able to produce ALL of your own materials to make things from.

Google up an eve manufacturing Spreadsheet where you can simply modify mineral prices and selling price to get EXACTLY what you need with no hastle.

Aim for being able to feed ALL of your industrial slots with 30 days of minerals, thats when life becomes easier.

Also, yes fuzzyworks website is great to get a great idea of whats what and how in more detail.