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Eve MultiBoxing allowed : An nice game for cheaters ?

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Paladin Amarr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-06-20 19:17:50 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
Paladin Amarr wrote:

What is Cheating : softwares that interact with the game directly to get advantage, no exception.

cool... so multiboxing software is still allowed. ty!

Paladin Amarr wrote:
What is not cheating: softewares that interact with the game indirectly using apis made for it, ex: Web sites and softwares that use information extracted from eve api. Just it.

oh god, you mean im going to be banned for using a keyboard?

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I hear from peaple that systems with lots of asteroid belts cant be explored anymore, just because multi-boxers players came everyday with 50 retrievers and mine all asteroids in an few minutes. Players that create trial accounts and using cheat get it registred buying Plex with out any enforce.

so? if its there for the taking it belongs to whoever has the most efficient way of extracting it.

get off my eve you commie

also, activating with plex IS one of the features of PLEX.

Paladin Amarr wrote:
Pvp players that using this softwares can camp in an gate with 50 tornados and kill everyone. And much more.

really? you mean somewhere in EVE a multiboxer is providing player generated content by fielding 5 billon isk in ships? that guy deserves a medal.


Well, I guess you think bots should be allowed tooo right ?
Warp to 0 also ?
Wich more ?
Paladin Amarr
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-06-20 19:33:28 UTC
Jimmy Morane wrote:
If it is allowed then how is it cheating? Have you discovered something that ccp doesn't know about?



Maybe they are not aware of this. Who knows.
I hear that bots and warp to 0 was used for long time with out any intevention from ccp.
Anyway, this IS cheating in almost every game arround.
ShipToaster
#23 - 2013-06-20 19:35:08 UTC
Paladin Amarr wrote:
Massive troll bull ****


Trolling, sometimes it is this easy.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2013-06-20 19:36:14 UTC
Paladin Amarr wrote:
Anyway, this IS cheating in almost every game arround.
1. …such as…?
2. …so what?
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#25 - 2013-06-20 19:39:43 UTC
Why would CCP ban something that makes them alot of money. Those accounts need to be fed plexes,And I've watched vids on this program the user must be at the computer which imo I think is fine. If you want to use it and CCP allows it no big deal its the afk systems programs and bots that they are more worried about.

Blue
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2013-06-20 19:45:59 UTC
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bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#27 - 2013-06-20 19:49:42 UTC
I'M using Isboxer for lv4 and...i don't see how it can be cheating if EVERYONE can do the same?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-20 20:08:57 UTC
bloodknight2 wrote:
I'M using Isboxer for lv4 and...i don't see how it can be cheating if EVERYONE can do the same?


While it's true that multiboxing is allowed in EVE, saying it is because everybody can do it is a stupid argument. Everybody can use 3rd party hacks in any games as long as they install/download them like isboxer but it's not allowed just because of that.
Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-06-20 20:17:57 UTC
Paladin Amarr wrote:
Jimmy Morane wrote:
If it is allowed then how is it cheating? Have you discovered something that ccp doesn't know about?



Maybe they are not aware of this. Who knows.
I hear that bots and warp to 0 was used for long time with out any intevention from ccp.
Anyway, this IS cheating in almost every game arround.


Ok. Slowly. What is IT that you are biting your nails like a little squirrel over thinking ccp isn't aware of? Multiboxing is allowed. It's not cheating.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#30 - 2013-06-20 21:16:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Paladin Amarr wrote:
Anyway, this IS cheating in almost every game arround.
1. …such as…?
2. …so what?

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#31 - 2013-06-20 21:21:19 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Oh look, it's this thread again.




Indeed. One I've seen repeated in every MMO I've played. I still don't get why people somehow think their opinion is worth a damn to anyone else.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-06-20 21:22:58 UTC
Lara Dantreb wrote:
parallelization of actions = multiboxing
serialization of actions = botting

if you mine 2 hours with 12 characters and ISBoxer, it's legit
if you mine 24 hours with 1 botting character, it's forbidden.

result : more or less same mining amount.

With ISBoxer you pay for 12 accounts
With a bot one account is enough

hence why multiboxing is allowed and why boting is not : BUCKS in CCP pocket


About right (and you bet the mining multiboxers will prance on threads like this, defending mining with 8+ toons).

Like in WoW having a 30 client multiboxer in a BG. Breaks the game (can't fight him when instagibbed). But as long as it's 30 accounts being paid for Blizzard doesn't care.

Same mentality CCP is doing, 30 single players can suffer for 1 multiboxer.

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Bax Kuhal
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
#33 - 2013-06-20 21:33:26 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Lara Dantreb wrote:
parallelization of actions = multiboxing
serialization of actions = botting

if you mine 2 hours with 12 characters and ISBoxer, it's legit
if you mine 24 hours with 1 botting character, it's forbidden.

result : more or less same mining amount.

With ISBoxer you pay for 12 accounts
With a bot one account is enough

hence why multiboxing is allowed and why boting is not : BUCKS in CCP pocket


About right (and you bet the mining multiboxers will prance on threads like this, defending mining with 8+ toons).

Like in WoW having a 30 client multiboxer in a BG. Breaks the game (can't fight him when instagibbed). But as long as it's 30 accounts being paid for Blizzard doesn't care.

Same mentality CCP is doing, 30 single players can suffer for 1 multiboxer.


Using this logic, then CCP should allow bots since each bot is a paid account right?

I don't see a problem with running multiple accounts in whatever way someone wants to.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-06-20 21:56:30 UTC
Bax Kuhal wrote:
I don't see a problem with running multiple accounts in whatever way someone wants to.


Here, see how it's done in WoW BGs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6lKKOzNHDI

But I'm all for a free market. Let EvE become a multibox haven, while humans leave to play with actual humans, instead. More fun!

Was out in Amarr and the place is literally crawling with 8+ multibox players mining even the common ore. Guy came out of the station and all 8 toons fanned out in a star like spread, too. One key stroke.

At this rate might as well do what some F2P games have done, add botware into the game for farming. No different.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#35 - 2013-06-20 22:08:03 UTC
To be very frank, if you people want to whine so much about multiboxing, then do something about it: ship into a Catalyst, get your gunnery skills up, and get into face-******* range and start shooting the multiboxers. Go on roams with your friends (if you can make any who will put up with your whining) and lay waste to entire multiboxing fleets.

Stop talking, and start acting.

Unless, of course, you're too scared to lose sec status (but hey, we've already got tags for that).

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GreenSeed
#36 - 2013-06-20 22:10:23 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:

Was out in Amarr and the place is literally crawling with 8+ multibox players mining even the common ore. Guy came out of the station and all 8 toons fanned out in a star like spread, too. One key stroke.

so?

how does that affect you?


and please, don't ever link wow crap here, the games are fundamentally different. on wow if you see something you "morally" disapprove of like multiboxing you have to look the other way or sit there and take it. on eve you can kill it.

if you are lazy or too weak to do it, then that's your problem, don't ask CCP to do your job for you.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#37 - 2013-06-20 22:12:56 UTC
Oh, for (imaginary) Gods sakes! Give it a rest you idiots. There's nothing wrong with multiboxers. Use your damn brain before you complain about something.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#38 - 2013-06-20 22:16:37 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:


Like in WoW having a 30 client multiboxer in a BG.

And no one cares.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#39 - 2013-06-20 22:17:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Lara Dantreb wrote:
parallelization of actions = multiboxing
serialization of actions = botting

if you mine 2 hours with 12 characters and ISBoxer, it's legit
if you mine 24 hours with 1 botting character, it's forbidden.

result : more or less same mining amount.

With ISBoxer you pay for 12 accounts
With a bot one account is enough

hence why multiboxing is allowed and why boting is not : BUCKS in CCP pocket


Somebody who gets it.

Given that CCP has a director who is 1) bankrupt in debt and 2) associated with the Russian Mafia..


Ofcourse CCP accepts cheating as legit. It pays his debt of and that is what it is about. Anybody who thinks multi boxing is not cheating is just lying to themselves, of course it is cheating but it pays CCP. Any business that depends on multi account owners is sure in for a rough ride when they do something wrong, it is pure butt hurt on their accounts. One customer loss equates to multiple account losses, that pays, ofcourse they will give in to them. TO make sure that money still flows.

Eve is dying, why? Just look at the market, "EXCLUSIVE LIMITED EDITION FLOODING THE MARKET SHIPS AND ITEMS" and "TOURNAMENT PLAYING CARDS", whats next? Team Fortress 2 Hats?

Eve died long ago, it is on life support, and so is CCP.

They give in to the biggest whine, and they only want money, only an idiot thinks otherwise, if that means beating this donkey some more, fine, as long as it drops ISK.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#40 - 2013-06-20 22:22:57 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Lara Dantreb wrote:
parallelization of actions = multiboxing
serialization of actions = botting

if you mine 2 hours with 12 characters and ISBoxer, it's legit
if you mine 24 hours with 1 botting character, it's forbidden.

result : more or less same mining amount.

With ISBoxer you pay for 12 accounts
With a bot one account is enough

hence why multiboxing is allowed and why boting is not : BUCKS in CCP pocket


Somebody who gets it.

Given that CCP has a director who is 1) bankrupt in debt and 2) associated with the Russian Mafia..


Ofcourse CCP accepts cheating as legit. It pays his debt of and that is what it is about. Anybody who thinks multi boxing is not cheating is just lying to themselves, of course it is cheating but it pays CCP. Any business that depends on multi account owners is sure in for a rough ride when they do something wrong, it is pure butt hurt on their accounts. One customer loss equates to multiple account losses, that pays, ofcourse they will give in to them. TO make sure that money still flows.

Eve is dying, why? Just look at the market, "EXCLUSIVE LIMITED EDITION FLOODING THE MARKET SHIPS AND ITEMS" and "TOURNAMENT PLAYING CARDS", whats next? Team Fortress 2 Hats?

Eve died long ago, it is on life support, and so is CCP.

They give in to the biggest whine, and they only want money, only an idiot thinks otherwise, if that means beating this donkey some more, fine, as long as it drops ISK.


It's not cheating. If they want to pay for 12 accounts they are just getting 12 accounts worth of stuff. Each of those accounts has to use the ISK, so it's really the same as running 1 account in terms of profit per account. I don't even know why they do it, but I don't care that they do. Those 12 accounts have exactly the same impact on you as 12 players running 1 account each, there is literally no difference.

As for Eve is dying... seriously? Eve broke its concurrent user record only a month or so ago and has been growing faster than ever before over the last year.

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