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Data and Relic signatures in Wormholes - what's your experience?
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Fa Xian
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-06-19 19:48:15 UTC
The other day I took my little Helios into a wormhole to look for data and relic sites. On finding one and warping in, I noticed that it had Sleeper rats. This surprised me as I thought that rats had been removed from exploration profession sites... but apparently not in wormholes? My Helios couldn't fight its way out of a wet paper bag, so I had to leave it there...

Have you done any wormhole profession exploration since Odyssey hit? Do they use the new mechanics? Do they still have rats? How tough are those rats? What are you using to take on these sites as little exploration frigates must be too wimpy?
Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2013-06-19 21:18:11 UTC
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Removed all NPC’s from Hacking and Archaeology sites, with the exception of Wormhole and Nullsec sites.


Patch notes are handy. I don't believe nullsec sites have them either though, but not positive.

http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpace

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Fa Xian
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-19 21:32:47 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Patch notes are handy. I don't believe nullsec sites have them either though, but not positive.


Thanks for the link, but the data there is from 2010. And I've killed a fair number of Sleepers at sites before Odyssey.

I've done sites in high, low, and null since the patch hit. None of them have any kind of rats. They don't spawn to start, not on a timer, not for failing cans... no rats ever it seems.

So, surprised to see rats at a Data Site in a wormhole. There don't seem to be combat capable ships with exploration bonuses. And I had read that the patch was removing them. I can understand if there is sexy loots in the wormhole sites that some rats are justified. I'll probably throw together a Myrmidon or something and try one out... just looking for someone who could report on what they actually are.

If they're different from regular sites by having rats, are they different in other ways?
Tykari
The Observatory
#4 - 2013-06-19 21:43:41 UTC
Sleepers still guard the remains of their great civilisation ferociously, including data and relic sites, and it's not an oversight. CCP did it intentionally.

In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness.
Fa Xian
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-19 21:46:05 UTC
Tykari wrote:
Sleepers still guard the remains of their great civilisation ferociously, including data and relic sites, and it's not an oversight. CCP did it intentionally.


:) ... so I guessed. Are there respawns? I like my cov ops for doing the hacking, so I could go back to the old ways of bringing a fighting ship to clear the site, but it'll get annoying if I have to switch back and forth.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-19 21:59:37 UTC
Fa Xian wrote:
Tykari wrote:
Sleepers still guard the remains of their great civilisation ferociously, including data and relic sites, and it's not an oversight. CCP did it intentionally.


:) ... so I guessed. Are there respawns? I like my cov ops for doing the hacking, so I could go back to the old ways of bringing a fighting ship to clear the site, but it'll get annoying if I have to switch back and forth.



The sites are identical to before, until you activate your analyzer module. At which point you play the minigame and get the loot spawn.

Honestly I find them horribly annoying. still has lots of cans, tough minigames. They take forever and the loot drops in general aren't worth the time it takes.
FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-06-19 22:59:34 UTC
I did a relic site and a data site in a c3 wh I found. No sleepers spawned :S
Litair
Nleesh
#8 - 2013-06-19 23:41:35 UTC
So would the wormhole sites generally be worth more than what you find in null at the moment? I feel like the loot has been buffed up quite a lot in low and null with Odyssey, but WH sounds like it's pretty unchanged based on patch notes and stuff. So kinda wondering what the balance is like now :o
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-06-20 00:05:58 UTC
FlamesOfHeaven wrote:
I did a relic site and a data site in a c3 wh I found. No sleepers spawned :S



Likely bugged then. WH data and relic sites have had a habit since odyssey of not despawning even after all the cans have been hacked. we've had one persist now for 4 days. The first 3 the sleepers did not respawn but the cans refilled. Then they stopped refilling too. But it just won't go away.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#10 - 2013-06-20 00:11:04 UTC
My experience is that sleepers come and make sex to my ship.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!