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AB instead of MWD
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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-19 03:17:08 UTC
a carrier with 100mn MWD. 1 cycle of MWD then turn off the MWD puts the carrier at 75% velocity so it can warp out at the end of the 10 second MWD cycle. but MWD have negative effect on your capacitor

I was wondering if I used a 100mn AB on the carrier. And ran 1 cycle of the AB. How many more seconds of regular acceleration do you think it would take to hit 75% of max velocity to warp out? Im willing to absorbe a few seconds of extra acceleration to warp out to avoid the MWD capacitor hit
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2013-06-19 03:20:57 UTC
Why would you need to warp out fast in a carrier?

How did you Veterans start?
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-19 03:37:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciyrine
because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-19 03:41:28 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)

Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything.
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#5 - 2013-06-19 03:49:54 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Ciyrine wrote:
because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)

Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything.

Isn't this piloting 101?
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-06-19 07:03:09 UTC
no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier.

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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
#7 - 2013-06-19 07:20:49 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier.

True. Almost as bad as afk mining (insert "hee"meme face emote that this forum doesn't have here)
Selena Brutor
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-19 07:42:30 UTC
ITT: Nobody is thinking like a capital pilot.
This also goes for the guy in PL, sadly enough.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#9 - 2013-06-19 07:51:44 UTC
imo if you're only ratting, you don't need the cap anyway so stick to the mwd for quick warp but really just align to something you can even put your speed at 75% if you are worried about moving away too fast bc already being aligned will always be faster than an mwd anyway

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Selena Brutor
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-06-19 07:59:00 UTC
Why not jump out?
This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-06-19 08:50:31 UTC
Selena Brutor wrote:
Why not jump out?
This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.


This got me thinking, does warp core stabs allow you to jump pointed? Never really tried it.
Pepper Solette
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-06-19 12:49:19 UTC
The general consensus is to always be aligned and watch local.

I know plenty of people though that have a cyno alt ready to go the moment there is trouble.

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-06-19 12:52:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ciyrine
Selena Brutor wrote:
Why not jump out?
This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.


how long does it take to ramp up a jump?


Quote:
Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything


because if your moving then you cant use sentries which are way better than fighters

Quote:
no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier


and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB?
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
#14 - 2013-06-19 13:07:25 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB?

log on the test server
train the skills/buy the carrier for 1 isk
try and compare it yourself
Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-06-19 13:19:28 UTC
its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan.
Stonecrusher Mortlock
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-06-19 13:44:06 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)





Remove local, then the nute has no clue your in system.


change all site's to need probes.



d scan for probes.




now your fine.
Implying Implications
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-06-19 13:45:58 UTC
Yes you can use an afterburner. I rat with one all the time.

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-06-19 13:48:22 UTC
how long does it take to warp out? The 10 second cycle time of AB + how much extra time of regular acceleration to hit 75% max velocity?
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#19 - 2013-06-19 14:03:13 UTC
If you use a T2 MWD, the cap penalty is less then the meta 4 if the mwd is not running. And because you only want it actived if a neuts enters, it's not that importent. So just stick with a T2 MWD and you are golden.

I tested the 100mn ab on the orca once, did not work out that good. Needed 25 seconds or something like that, compared to the 11 - 12 seconds with mwd.

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Commander Ash McCloud
The New Eden People's Front
#20 - 2013-06-19 14:07:49 UTC
Ciyrine wrote:
its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan.
Just spend 4-5 days to get High Speed Maneuvering 4. Worth it to always have the option to use a T2 100mn MWD.
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