Market Discussions

PLEX and unique ships if you have the isk.

Minerals/basic ships are an investment, not an inflation hedge.

Right now you might as well park isk into BSs/BCs/whatever else has been "tiericided" and is undervalued.

I'm thinking ice products and pos fuels will equalize at higher prices than they have right now.

Certain ships like the procurer and the armageddon are currently selling well under their build price and will definitely edge up over time.

Intuitively I would think that some of the moon materials should go up in price as well over time, especially the lower end ones. The reason being that rigth now supply is over-saturated as compared to the costs of POS fuels and this is going to get worse before it gets better. At some point I suspect people will take down some of their towers and opt for buying materials from the market which will impact the supply side of some materials and cause prices to go up.

It's unclear to me how this will work out as people re-organize their reaction chains so it's a bit of a shot in the dark but it wouldn't surprise me at all to see higher prices for R4 and R8 materials in a year's time. Similarly I would predict lower prices for some of the R64's. Supply increased with the last patch and CCP nerfed Goons' technitium monopoly, which will mean a lot of large scale reorganising on that side with unpredictable results. My market sense is telling me that low-ends will be more stable and more like to go up on the 1 year time frame than the higher end ones.

the only items of constant value in eve are PLEXes. All other items are either infinitely available (minerals, ice) or subject to CCP modifications (ship stats, drop rate on expensive modules) so price fluctuates.

Think of PLEX as eve gold. The price of gold keeps changing, but at least it can never ever be worthless. Apple shares on the other hand........

You might want to check this article of mine about EvE markets (anti)correlation.

In there, you'll also find a link to some valuable tests made by Samroski.

That's a fair enough point but I would suggest that if you had a year to wait that there are still some good investments to be made.

Inflation is a concept that doesn’t really apply to EVE because EVE has completely different rules compared to real life.

However, if you want to keep the perceived value of your assets you should invest in something that increases in value by about 10% - 20% (measured in ISK) per year. PLEX has been rising by 15% on average per year. If you buy PLEX you just have to make sure that it isn’t currently spiking into a bubble (I’m quite sure that’s not a problem right now). You could also buy Procurers, Armageddons or Dominixes even though mineral prices will probably continue to drop by like 10%. Procurer should give you a 20% profit per year for the next 3 years if you buy them for less than 12m ISK but there is a risk that CCP changes the rules within the next 3 years (it could have a positive or negative effect on this investment). Armageddons and Dominixes should give you a 20% profit within less than a year if you buy them for less than 144m ISK and 136m ISK respectively. The Ferox, Cyclone, Scorpion and Typhoon stockpiles will probably last months and give you less than 20% profit.

Plex and unique ships....everything else has too much risk in my opinion.

Easy enough to get them mixed up, seeing as how badly words are abused on the forums sometimes. :)

THere is no such thing a a safe long term parking place for isk in eve since the underlying rules are subject to change and therefore the relative value of any item to the overall market is subject to the constant nerf/buff cycle.

As mentioned the old tier one BS arena is probaly the best, since it just suffered from a CCP manipulation and the ships were built under the old rules in large numbers and will have to eventually corrrect to replacement costs or the ship will never be flown.

I would buy the following:

PLEX, tech 1 ships that were massively overproduced in the Tiericide leadup (I'm looking at you, Exequeror), and keep the rest liquid.