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Mining and refining viable together?
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Neculai Patroclus
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-06-18 16:32:29 UTC
Hey fellow pilots,

Currently in EVE I'm mining and i am enjoying myself, been ale to multitask on different games while i do so. So for this character that is what I'm going to focus on.

I'm just wondering whether it would be viable to also incorporate refining and things of that nature. Would it be worth doing it and training all the skills for it as well as the mining skills? Would it increase my ISK income?

Thanks guys. Also if you have any advice about mining and what skills and ships to train for then feel free to tell me.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-18 16:42:56 UTC
The short answer: Yes.

For an example, I pulled median prices off of Eve Central (eve-central.com) for Scordite. A refinable batch of 333 units would sell at 8271.72 ISK if you sold just the ore. The minerals after processing (with max skills and corp standing) would sell for 9802.02.

Here's some links to check out from the guys over at Eve Uni: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Web_Resources_for_Miners

o/
Coffee

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Kandrew Dorak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-06-18 17:57:15 UTC
Coffee Rocks wrote:
The short answer: Yes.

For an example, I pulled median prices off of Eve Central (eve-central.com) for Scordite. A refinable batch of 333 units would sell at 8271.72 ISK if you sold just the ore. The minerals after processing (with max skills and corp standing) would sell for 9802.02.

Here's some links to check out from the guys over at Eve Uni: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Web_Resources_for_Miners

o/
Coffee


Wouldn't that mean it's not worth it since he could just be mining on the other account and pull in twice as much?
Revolution Rising
Last-Light Holdings
#4 - 2013-06-18 18:26:10 UTC
Your miner should also be your refiner ;)

In fact for things like tech 2 mining crystals, you need refining skills..

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#5 - 2013-06-18 19:01:17 UTC
Kandrew Dorak wrote:


Wouldn't that mean it's not worth it since he could just be mining on the other account and pull in twice as much?


No. Refining takes no time.

Bring in ore to station and every now and then right click and press Stack All. Select ore and then right click and select Refine.

Press OK and it's done.

In about 10 seconds your stockpile is worth a lot more.

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Ersahi Kir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-06-18 20:16:22 UTC
tech II mining crystals take ore specialization 4 anyway, so yes.

But you need to take the time to get your NPC station faction up so you don't pay npc refining taxes.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-06-18 20:27:38 UTC
In terms of getting value out of your time mining, there's a steady progression, from improving actual mining skills, to refining your own stuff, to building with your own minerals. With each step your isk/h increases. It only takes a few seconds to actually do the refine. Training up the skills to level 4 doesn't take all that long either (ABCM ores take longest of course).
Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-18 22:39:52 UTC
You ALWAYS want to refine your ore before you sell it. If you don't have the skills yet get a corp mate to do it for you. If your doing it solo, make the skills a priority. You could easily be loosing 20-40% of your value selling ore.
Neculai Patroclus
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-06-19 01:51:05 UTC
Okay thanks for all the reply's. Just also would like to as, what is the best ore to mine to get the maximum amount of isk per hour?

Thanks
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-06-19 04:34:37 UTC
Neculai Patroclus wrote:
Okay thanks for all the reply's. Just also would like to as, what is the best ore to mine to get the maximum amount of isk per hour?

Thanks



Check out the link I posted above. You'll find ore/ISK per hour calculators that break down the best pricing. Personally, if I'm mining I just take every last rock.

I take it you are in Highsec. When in doubt, mine scordite.

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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#11 - 2013-06-19 08:14:47 UTC
Coffee Rocks wrote:
C When in doubt, mine scordite.


Or Pyro :)

You need 6.67 Standing with the Corp that runs the station you are refining in to get max and I believe that you only need the processing skill to lvl2 to get max refine although lvl3 or 4 is required for T2 crystals.

Don't forget that refined minerals take up a lot less space for the most part which means its easier to haul for sale and you don't need to get rooted with low buy orders in whichever station you are in.
Nicolai Xperte
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-06-19 08:22:03 UTC
Like others have said refining will net you more isk only if certain criteria is met. Get your waste from refining done to 0 and 0% tax from the corp station that you are using (unless you are using a POS then you really need to focus on refinery skills). Shortest and easiest way would be to stock pile a certain type of ore and just sell it off that is if you don't want to mission grind standings.

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Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#13 - 2013-06-19 14:23:45 UTC
Kandrew Dorak wrote:
Coffee Rocks wrote:
The short answer: Yes.

For an example, I pulled median prices off of Eve Central (eve-central.com) for Scordite. A refinable batch of 333 units would sell at 8271.72 ISK if you sold just the ore. The minerals after processing (with max skills and corp standing) would sell for 9802.02.

Here's some links to check out from the guys over at Eve Uni: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Web_Resources_for_Miners

o/
Coffee


Wouldn't that mean it's not worth it since he could just be mining on the other account and pull in twice as much?

refining takes a couple seconds before moving it to market to sell. It can actually save you time if you are hauling bulk ore with a freighter to market, refined minerals take up much less space. You should never have a dedicated refining character, aside from the fact that efficient mining uses T2 crystals which require the same skills as refining. The only hard part is getting standings up for the corp that owns the station you refine at.