EVE General Discussion

So guys, As many of you fellow vets have seen. so many isk making Fads have come and gone.
My self being in pvp for the last few years, Ive being doing the whole Buy a plex here and there sorta thing.
I did make a few bil doing incursions when they first came out, and ofcourse did missions in my noob years.

9 years into my life in eve CCP has both created new was to make ISK and nerfed ways to make ISK
They nerfed 0.0 couple years ago. Then they came out with incursions which was the huge isk maker until they nerfed the vanguard sites. There has always been the Mission runners, inventors, the plexers, the industrialist, the char traders, and lets not forget the w-spacers and Carrier 0.0 ratters. **EDIT** forgo Scammers, explorerst FW ofcourse but sadly it needs work CCP need to make it better for PvP it faction warfare not Faction Carebearing....

So my question how are you making you isk?
and what is the easy Isk/hour way.
Is exploration the next thing? are incursions still on top? mission worth doing still? lets us know
what is your bread winner.
Lets see what seems to be what most are doing.

****I UNDERSTAND SO PEOPLE WONT WANT TO SHARE WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO MAKE ISK, IF YOU DONT WISH TO SHARE THEN THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE, DONT POST******

Please post Ticks in the form of ISK/HR....
if you have some sorta of got to ship or fit you mind has made you rich.
Feel free to go into dealing on how you make yourself rich.

WHAT I DO TO MAKE ISK:
I AM A NULL SEC RATTER, i JUMP INTO A GOOD SYSTEM FULL OF SANCTUMS AND FORSAKEN HUBS WITH A CARRIER OR NIGHTMARE AND MAKE ABOUT 10MIL/SITE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE IS A OFFICER SPAWN WITH NICE LOOT
I like to have fun so mining for 8 hours a day just isnt for me, FEELS TOO MUCH LIKE WORK. I love PvP so if I can make isk shooting stuff i`m all for it.

I ratt sanctums in 0.0 space in my thanny I can make around 100mil/hour on a good day.
Allows me to shoot stuff in my carrier. also allows me to jump back to HQ if some defence fleet is needed.

0.0 Carrier ratting
Steps are as follows:
-I just jump into a good system.
-scan
- warp to the first sanctum or forsaken hub I find
- let isk poor in, just make sure im align to warp out at the first sign or trouble.
Some times you`ll get a officer spawn. nice faction mods inside too


Hope we can get a good list going Here. Help the noobs out and eachother.

exploration
t2 armor plates.
i tend to find 10 in a can usually at 20m ea 200m in 2 mins of work.
i find around 300 of these a week

Mainly Faction Warfare for me, been in just over 2 weeks and just made over 6bill in that time. Done a few days of trying the FW missions but mainly Sites and pvp (not that you get much from pvp)

I'm a boring Legit ISK maker...

PI mining/Manufacturing
T1/T2 Manufacturing (Also, T2 Invention)
Ratting/Missioning
Exploration (When I can)

I do Mine/Ice Mine, but that is all for production. So I don't really see direct profit from that.

-Mak

Awoxing mission runners.

As long as you have a mining permit and follow the Code, mining ice can still be profitable. Remember to only mine what you need.

Few years ago I tried to jump on T2 Cruisers invention train and I ended with feeling that I'm working on second full time job.
Things like constant POS refueling/ horrible S&I UI / invention alts/ flowing Invention re-installment schedules (if you missed next cycle - you losing money on fuel) can turn off anyone from this method.

Its easier to spend few hours in exploration IMO.

Good.

Since this thread is going to be read by quite a few newbies, I thought it wise to point out some of the not so obvious (to new players) scams out there.

This "Mining" business, and "Mining Fleets" are good examples of EvE meta-gaming scams. The gist of it is that you are supposed to mine in highsec so the ebil piwates can gank your mining ship, or that there is some Code of Conduct with regards to mining ( LOL, sorry but that makes me laugh every damn time ).

These are just player made-up ideas to trick newbies into mining.

The simple counter to these highsec scams is to find a different, and quieter, activity, where you wont be harassed by griefers into mining..

eve is a big place(s), theres plenty of stuff to do, so it is not difficult to find a nice thing to do.

Blow up NPCs, loot their wrecks, and then salvage anything not nailed down.

It doesn't make millions or anything, but it supplements my newbie mission income nicely.