Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Eve no longer feels like the huge five thousand star system game it was back in the mid to late 2000’s; everywhere is easily accessible giving the so-called sandbox a claustrophobic feel. To compound this, there is no ‘true’ exploration… only dead end wormholes and ‘sites’ to appease the masses.

We are now in the second decade of our beloved game and it is time for radical new changes; and I believe that the abolishing of the EvE Gate Network is the first step and the answer to a lot of problems faced in EvE.

With the Gate Network gone, true exploration would surface as to travel from one star system to another, a pilot would need the coordinates to either warp to or jump to that star system unless he is provided with the coordinates by another pilot. Your ship’s warp factor/speed would be important now as it would determine how fast it would take you to actually arrive at your destination. However, ships (classes from Frigate to Battlecruiser) should be able to install a “Micro Jump Drive” as an alternative to warping for long periods. With jump coordinates, there would no longer be a need for a cynosural field (cyno beacon), for ships to lock onto for jumping. For example: I am in Amarr and I need to get to Jita. Currently it is about nine jumps, so, all I do is open the jump interface and enter the coordinates for Jita. Or, I can activate the warp drive and wait for a period of time to arrive (unless you fly into a warp bubble or an Onyx’s bubble).

Gate camps would be a thing of the past as pirates and idle pilots would actually have to hunt for their prey, as the method or the coordinates of a ship jumping into a star system would be unknown. Also there would be no need for “High sec” or “Low sec” or “Null sec” as it would be one huge gaming galaxy! However Concord would still protect noob star systems to give new pilots a fighting chance.

I really hope that this or something similar is given consideration as it would open a new era of EvE.




Please note: No trolling or bashing.... just constructive responses...

Sorry, but i think that would completly kill eve pvp. It's allready hard sometimes to get fights and if you take the bottlenecks (Gates) away, it would decrease that chances for another 95%. And the need for a good intelnetwork would end up pretty useless.



That wouldn't work either because to catch someone in a bubble, you have to know where he comes from and place the bubble accordingly to his estimated flightpath. You can't do that if coordinates of a ship jumping into a star system would be unknown as you propose.



No, it isn't, because some alliances defend their territory and the ressources in it pretty vigorous.... Among other things with gatecamps As Danika allready said, the coordinates of the systems could be found in the internet within a week... And then REALLY everything would be easily accessible ;)

Gatecamps may be annoying sometimes, but there are ships / tactics to avoid them pretty good.

Realistically? Sure. It'd only take an interceptor 3-5 minutes to warp between stars based on my quick AUtoLY math.

Gameplay wise this is a terrible idea. The lack of gatecamps would kill pvp. If I wanted to live in a wormhole, I would. Perhaps you should check out W-space.

But it takes 3-5 minutes to warp across a solar system...

It'd actually take that interceptor about five DAYS to warp from Jita to the closest lowsec system.

Nope. Just need to find another means of finding other players. Better scanners, methods of entering into another players warp bubble, new types of bubbles and what not.



Nope. Assume just for a moment that a player could "warp" direct from one system to another, but there is a new type of bubble available. This bubble covers a 1 AU sphere. Anything that flies through it drops out of warp and the stopped player can not warp for 90 seconds.

To set a trap, you plop down your bubble, probe at 1 AU around your trap area and wait.

See, this is not rocket science.

Same responses when I suggested that every ship should get a jump drive so we could abolish gates. Glad to see more of this line of thought being voiced.

Answer to the lore: technology advances over time

Answer to the "we need bottlenecks": try scanning and moving around. In the wild the gazelle doesn't walk up to the lion. The lion has to hunt.

Right on. I independently had the same ideas. Jump drives with recharge timers similiar to the MJD. Similiar to the OP you could invigorate the economy with fuel.

One drawback though is travel time. Right now I can get 4 jumps away in a couple minutes. Putting a spool up time would slow things down. Giving the drives ranges would help but also require the most balancing.

You might want to check your math. I think you have a wandering decimal place somewhere.

However, by increasing the travel time to go from place to place, you effectively make the universe larger. Therefore you now have more room for people and by making specifically nulsec larger in this way, it makes either ninja ratting or raiding someone's sov space more viable because it takes longer for the sov holders to respond. This would either force them to hold a smaller amount of space, thus increasing the various alliances/corporations in nulsec, or increase their size to be able to hold their space.

Whether this is a good thing or bad thing, I have no opinion of. What the OP is suggesting though would be a HUGE change in the game. Some good changes I'm sure would come with it, but bad things will come as well. It just depends on your point of view.

EDIT: I should note that the level that the OP has suggested is probably a bit overkill, but the general idea should have some weight.

The gate system does not necessarily enhance PvP as much as it acts as a deterrent.

Without gates, no gate camps. This is true.
Before you decide losing these is a bad thing, consider instead how they might actually be obstacles to PvP.

Many people do not travel between certain systems, since these give great leverage to those seeking to limit passage or harvest kill mails.
Kill mails they obviously agree that would not be had if hunting was required.

Now, what if ships had jump drives that had limited range instead? People would hunt at and defend locations where the prey was likely to be located.

Have a hidden mining spot? Hunters pay good ISK for the location.

Popular outpost? It is effectively a target location for hunters.

Change is possible, with overall positive results, IF done carefully.