Science & Industry

I didn't want to use my main account just because of the unwanted attention posting can sometimes bring.

Can anyone explain to me how I can tax people in my corp in minerals we mine ?

We don't rat or mission (very much), so taxing the minerals seems to be the best thing for making money for the corp itself.

Contracts is a really harsh way of doing this (it can only be done at a station) and is actually becoming a lot of work lol.

Yeah this kind of requires we mostly be in the same timezone, and is still kind of up to the person to show up for it ;)

I was hoping there was an in-game system I was overlooking.

what i did when i ran a mining corp in HS is 1 of 2 things either a dedicated % come out of each op for example

10-15% with a near max boosted orca this would still give the miners a profit margin over the stand alone mining

or

do a all corp op that would mean all ore and profit go to corp for that op

the thing is you need to justify why i should spend X amount of time giving my earning to corp what does the corp give back for this

There are a couple of different ways. When i ran a corp we did all of the following at some point in the past with varying degrees of success:

1) flat tax. everyone pays X isk per month for corp membership. Corp tax rates are set to zero. Corp reports on status of wallet and income/investments. discourages laziness but involves a lot of making lists and checking them twice.

2) using buy orders at a station. Set the price at X% under Jita and agree to all refine and sell at that station. the X% is the tax. If someone else is actively buying at that station, however, it can be a PITA. Also, it's hard to "force" people to do this.

3) communism. all mined minerals go to corp. 90% of everything is paid out as a salary to active corp members. However, communism works in game like it does in real life. The lazier you are, the more you profit from it. This actually works a bit better if you do mining/manufacturing of big stuff like cap ships because if the miners are lazy you can't build anything and they don't get paid.

4) using cans in corp hangars. miners dump their or in their "own" can and once a month you go through the cans, refine it and pay that miner 90% of what it was worth. PITA for the person who has to go through all the cans.

5) corp mining ops. A month usually has about 30 days so every day you do a corp op amounts to about a 3% tax. Do 3 such ops in a month and that's 10% of combined effort. However some players will always have a good excuse not to be there which gets irritating.

On the whole I've found #2 to be the easiest and the most effective time/effort wise. #5 is my second choice and can be good for team building too. The most precise way is #4. #1 is a pita for the administration it causes, especially if corp is large and #3 is, well, not meant for everyone although with a small group of like-minded individuals it can work very well.

hope that helps.

i disagree about thinking like a HS miner im thinking in terms of business and i agree a good corp retains members but from a miner(employee) stand point why am I giving a part of my income to you (i understand the move to null im in null now)

I meant as a HS corp waht are you offering your miners to keep them mining for you if you heavy hand them with taxes and forced ops etc they are gonna say screw it and go off on thier lonesome

Most ppl play eve to relax and have fun not pick up a second job i know i play for SnG

Ok so you understand that moving ANY corp from high-sec to low/0.0 requires isk yes ?
And bringing up "Gee I hope your corp can justify it" really doesn't come into a discussion regarding the missing mechanics of mining taxation ?

We're not talking about the difference between 5% and 10% tax or anything, we're talking about the inability to tax at all.



Which is exactly the point, RUNNING a mining corp and BEING a miner are two different things.

The 2nd job is really all about trying to tax mining without any mechanic to facilitate it.

Taxing mining is useless and a waste of time to try to implement. Create an alt for refining, tax evasion successful.

In highsec there really isn't much of a reason to be in a corp anyway. In nullsec, just do a corp buy program at highest jita buy minus 10%. That's what I do with my corp for ore, ice, pi and salvage.