Player Features and Ideas Discussion

what is stopping you from putting stuff 1 system out from jita now?

Some people do this now. I have gotten some good deals in the adjacent systems.

the only people who ruin this system are the players themselves. If you gouge the price because of some imaginary payscale of x systems out from jita has to be marked up this high...lack of sales should not be a surprise.


this is what kills the other areas of the game. Amarr region I remember not so fondly. Had a 0.0 home out in its border space. Went oh crap forget a few items I need to drop off at the station for the alliance JF courier service quite a few times. Saw local prices. And went for the isk involved i may as well wake up the transport flying alt, haul ass to jita and haul ass to the amarr area drop off. the 20 or so minutes for this was a less of a pita than paying 10's of millions of isk the local sellers would have cost me. Moral of the story...charge jita price away from jita and less people would have to go there.

How hard can it be not to be a terrible poster?

Obviously too hard for you.

Would it be possible to place the station (I can't remember it's name atm) on a seperate server/node? This would reduce stress on the system by a few hundred pilots. I'm not very computer savvy so I wouldn't know the drawbacks so much. Just wanted to throw that out there.

the thing is that i'm pretty sure 90% or more of the population in jita is either in the main station, or transiting to / from it, so this wouldn't save anything, ppl that are just traveling will not go throught jita, either because they know they should avoid it because of congestion, or they are new players, relying on the autopilot to make their way, and jita is in the avoidance list.

so really, all the ppl in jita are there for the hub (or have an activity related to the fact that it is a hub, like camping WT / reds etc... because it's a hub).

tbh, there is no real solution to the jita hardcap problem but to increase the node power , any other solution would impact some users.

let's remember that jita was not design to be a trade hub, it became because of it's location wich is the most advantageous for the majority of the player, a true result of the sandbox if you want.

it is the same for amarr / rens and dodi.

fun fact, on the china server, jita is also the main hub, but the 3 other ones are in different systems!

imao, CCP need to raise the cap, this is a recurrent issue for mmos, more player -> need more servers, the jita cap being hit mre often is one symptom, the increased lag is another.

i think the servers are actually reaching their limit, with tidi kicking in more and more often, even in empty regions, but it seems that tidi somehow manage to hide this fact a bit, because unless you are aware of the whole region status, you would assume that if tidi kicks in you system, it's because a few system around something big might be happening, well not always.

a few weeks ago for example, our region was under tidi every 5 minutes, from DT to DT, and most o the time (thx to scouts) the total pocket was between 50 to 70ppl, really not much i would say.

it's time for CCP to upgrade servers, especially since they count on having more players, wich is happening since last summer at least, but since last summer, lag increase slowly but surely, as does the amount of time jita cap is reached....

Im not overly opposed to NPC haulers for player contracts, but they need to be attackable to balace things out.

Find a new home system to put your most important assets. Use Jita only as a trade hub.

My thought would be it would be instant, and it would therefore not be possible to attack them, but there's a better reason why they couldn't be attacked: collateral.

Right now, if things are moved in and out of Jita, via, say, Red Frog, then for the people having their items moved at least, their ISK is fully secured by the collateral of the contract. If the freighter explodes, then the courier loses out, both their ship and the collateral of the cargo.

If it were a devhaxed agent doing the transporting then the money would have to be appear out of thin air to pay out any collaterals, and it would introduce an other ISK faucet. Gankers and such would move out towards the neighbouring systems instead.