EVE General Discussion

Yeah, I realize I have as much chance of this as Scarlett Johansson hiring me as her personal masseuse.

I have looked at COAD. A cesspool of propaganda, and inside jokes.
I have looked at Dotlan, but that does not really give the full picture.
I won't even bother with goon's Pravda site, and EN 24 seems little better.
Same with Kugu and Failheap, which seems like monkey's throwing excrement at each other.

But does anyone have what they consider an up-to-date, impartial source of info on what is going on?
I have some friends in null giving me info, but that too will have some inherent bias.

Anyone in a position to comment on the war will have an angle they are trying to sell you. There is no impartiality, so read both EN24 and TMC with the recognition that both are reporting the same war through different eyes. Also, the only way to get impartial reporting is to go there yourself.

You want an impartial view of the war?

**** gettin' blown up.

I'm not impartial but I will try to paint a somewhat objective picture of the situation.

CFC:

CFC: With the technerf their incomes got crippled so they have to find alternative ways to fill their assets at rate as they did before Odyssey. With the collapse of HBC invading Fountain became an obvious choice for them. There are lots of R64 moons in fountain and its a good ratting space to organize a renter empire.

Solar: They are not involved directly with the CFC but N3 and PL being deployed to the west they might try to take back the drone regions. We will see how N3 can handle the situation from the other side of new eden.

Anti CFC forces:

Test: They want to defend their home region and prove themselfs against the goon threat.

BBC (black legion and retirement club): With the cfc deployed to the west, they have a good chance to take moons and systems in the north. As far as I know only Razor stayed to defend the north and so far they have difficulties alone to be effective as much as they should be to successfully defend the north.

N3/NC./PL: Their participation and goals are similar to the "balance of power" policy by Great Britain during history. With the collapse of HBC test is not a direct threat for N3. On the other hand the CFC dominated 0.0 far too long and this is the perfect situation to put an end to their dominance by preventing them from gathering additional incomes to maintain their full power.

Neutral entities (so far):

The dinner squadron and the russian players in Stain have their own conflict in the south so they aren't involved in this war (yet). I know nothing about provi block's plans.



CHANCES:

Financials:
CFC have probably really fat wallets from the tech era and their market manipulations but time works against them because the whole reason why they started this war is to get more money income.
Test: I don't know if it's just misleading propaganda or there is truth behind it but they seem kinda broke financially. We will see how they will keep up with the war. I wouldn't be surprised if N3 would inject some money into test just to keep them going. We will see.
N3/PL: The south came out of the whole moongoo rebalance better and they have huge renter empires so I can say they have better incomes now than the CFC. The whole purpose of jumping in the war is to suck the CFC wallets dry as much as possible. N3/PL don't really want to win this war. They want it as long and desperate as possible to cause pain to the CFC.

Numbers:
I think the raw numbers are quite even but anti-cfc forces have higher participation numbers so far heated by the hate of the goons. On the other hand CFC was passive far too long so they have to get their sh*t together if they don't want to fight outnumbered all the time.

Fleet doctrines and supers:
People keep saying that CFC became the largest in the numbers of supers but they can't use them if they can't win the subcap fights. PL and NC. super pilots are also a lot more experienced so less chance of devastating huge f*ck ups.
And CFC have problems winning on subcap level because their #1 tactic (blobbing) won't work this time and probably the main reason why they use kitchen sink fleets (caracal) because they have a hard time figuring out hard counters against their enemies. They have to fight against too many and too different fleet doctrines.

Summary: CFC have to pull out some tricks (and get more allies) if they want to come out of this war as winners and so far it seems like the odds are against them.

(if I'm wrong somewhere feel free to correct me)

Looks like a stalemate to me thus far of what I have read and seen.


Sure does add some volatility to the markets though.

Considering 'spin' is a major part of the war, good luck getting impartial views.

oops! fixed :)

Thanks.

That helps filling in on the holes I had (had most of that info already so good to get confirmation).
So keeping track of the day to day ebbs and flows in battles and territory swings is going to be a combination of dotlan, kill mails, and some detective work I fear, because I assume there is no easy way to do that, no single source.

As much as I am loathe to post in a Null politics thread, from a purely objective view having a basic grasp on conflicts and potential targets is always useful. Sewing seeds of chaos on an already crippled and confused enemy is pure bliss

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