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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-15 08:39:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
So im in a c4 with my amigos and we proceed to doing a site. They clear it out we then do the hacking thing. Done. Loots bleh. Second night we do the same thing only after clearing out the site by the third can half the group is ready to go farm melted nano ribbons because its quicker and better pay.

Sigh. Max scanning skills, max profession skills and the cans hacked within 3 attempts. And the crew is bored and unimpressed. We had enough people there to grab each and every can that popped. I understand the randomness of the loot from professions but salvaging is just too good.

We need a salvaging minigame, alot better hacking/archaeology loot or as fun as I think the minigame is, trash it.
GreenSeed
#2 - 2013-06-15 22:55:39 UTC
well, even when the point is valid, i don't agree on your conclusion.

yes, the minigame makes other activities more rewarding, but that's a reason not to have the minigame at all, not a reason to have it on all professions.

but now that its there, i think CCP should just buff the crap outta the null/WH hacking and archaeology rewards. to the point were each site, if farmed with another 4 - 5 players, can yield over 3x as much as it did before. while making it completely impossible to do solo.

say 50 cans or so... or make the tractor take longer.
Vito Tattaglia
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-15 23:00:11 UTC
Exploration is dead.

Long live combat sites!

But seriously, with how easy hacking and archaeology sites are now, the prices of decryptors and loot has tanked, literally 90% in some areas. It was nice for the first day or two where you could make a few million off each decryptor. Now? You'll be lucky if you get a million per site.

And yes, I have done low and null sec sites. I don't even want to think about how pitiful the loot is in high sec.
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-06-16 01:12:34 UTC
I do it in null with a heron and probe. 4 mill loss if I get caught in a bubble making 100+mill a hour. It mostly has to do with the scanning improvements but hey I'll take it.
Templar Knightsbane
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-06-16 01:23:19 UTC
I really like the new hacking system. Its great.

I really hate the loot from the new hacking sites. Its ****.
Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#6 - 2013-06-16 01:41:04 UTC
red colored core = more loot. Stil gotta catch the good cans though.

Also there are soo many data and relics sites popping around, even though they are easy to do, I stil make a lot of isk from it.
FlamesOfHeaven
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-06-16 01:43:15 UTC
Im fine with the minigame just not the cargo cans spewing out...
Macaya
Little Builders
#8 - 2013-06-16 01:54:35 UTC
FlamesOfHeaven wrote:
Im fine with the minigame just not the cargo cans spewing out...


Agreed.

CCP Good attempt but listen to your players... You have borked so much with the new patch. I would not call it a success at all.

RMR was better than this Shocked
Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#9 - 2013-06-16 02:00:11 UTC
What's up with the handicapped people in here? The minigames and the cans spewing is great.

Just adapt or go play chess, at least that game doesn't change.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-06-16 04:25:29 UTC
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
What's up with the handicapped people in here? The minigames and the cans spewing is great.

Just adapt or go play chess, at least that game doesn't change.



I keep trying to grab your cans in an effort to start a mini-game but it's just not working.

Don't ban me, bro!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#11 - 2013-06-16 04:27:30 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
What's up with the handicapped people in here? The minigames and the cans spewing is great.

Just adapt or go play chess, at least that game doesn't change.



I keep trying to grab your cans in an effort to start a mini-game but it's just not working.


You may not have the right analyzer equipped. Are you using Data, or Relic? :P

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Capt Tenguru10
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-06-16 04:33:13 UTC
Posting in a "I have max skillz I'm entitled" thread.... Also stealth .

http://i.imgur.com/EYX5Zi7.gif
Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#13 - 2013-06-16 05:09:05 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Mr Kidd wrote:
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
What's up with the handicapped people in here? The minigames and the cans spewing is great.

Just adapt or go play chess, at least that game doesn't change.



I keep trying to grab your cans in an effort to start a mini-game but it's just not working.


You may not have the right analyzer equipped. Are you using Data, or Relic? :P


Sorry, you need tractor beams for these huge cans.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-06-16 05:12:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Capt Tenguru10 wrote:
Posting in a "I have max skillz I'm entitled" thread.... Also stealth .


Only to emphasis the time/reward factor isn't do to not knowing how to hack or from having low skill. This is a system issue, not a player issue.

The entitlement accusation is fairly obtuse as well. I can make more money trading in Jita with relatively minor risk than I can in the C4 or probably even a higher class WH. This has to do with it being more accomodating to groups to just kill and salvage and move on than to allow a hacker to hack the cans and collect the loot.

If its going to be practical to just solo the hacking/archaeology sites then removing the NPC baddies seems reasonable.

It would also give an activity to do solo or even paired in WH's when you don't have the manpower to do more.