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null sec ratting solo fit/ship
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wndg
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-06-15 14:54:03 UTC
searching for some solo ratting ship/fit for null angels hub/haven ...
atm im using 2x cheap fit tengus 510dps/hml/nova -
need some ship that can do it solo in about same time, but can also align/warp relatively fast (yea im not interested in ratting in carrier), and is not more expensive then both of those tengus together (about 1.6-2b)
i was thinking about gila, but i dont have good drone skills, but no problem using any other t2 modules
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-15 15:08:58 UTC
mach sounds like what u want?

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wndg
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-06-15 15:16:06 UTC
Tsukino Stareine wrote:
mach sounds like what u want?

yea i was thinking that .. im searching for alternative to mach/cnr
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-06-15 15:19:37 UTC
Loki could also be an option, safer than a mach but not nearly as efficient

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#5 - 2013-06-15 15:23:17 UTC
Why do you need an alternative to CNR? Is there anything more suited to running anomalies?

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wndg
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-06-15 15:25:58 UTC
something that i can chill ratting in .. about those tengus i can forget and they wont die (not like i do, and there r neturals to take care of that :) .. but somethin i dont have to worry to much about dieing
Riot Girl
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#7 - 2013-06-15 15:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
A plain old Raven is fine for anomalies too. Do you mean dying from NPC damage?

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wndg
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-06-15 15:39:53 UTC
yea npc dmg (like i would fell asleep on keybord or alt tab + forget :)
and i was afraid normal raven wont have enough dps to kill anomalies (like haven) as fast as 2x tengu ..
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#9 - 2013-06-15 15:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Riot Girl
The damage should be pretty close and you don't have to deal with the hassle of managing 2 clients which I personally find to be a pain. Anyway, I think a CNR or T1 Raven can be pretty much immune to NPC damage with a SeBo fit. I can't remember how far Angels missiles reach but you should be able to kite them. Here's a fit I made for Angels https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3051343#post3051343 it's probably overkill on TPs and Rigors.

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Khemax
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-06-15 17:59:50 UTC
Mach or any Marauder tbh....it is doable in a Loki just not very practical or fast
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#11 - 2013-06-15 18:09:58 UTC
well if y ou did have drone skills i would go for the domi.

but you dont... so yeah raven works nice. or maybe the phoon... can help kill the smaller stuff faster.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-06-15 20:07:58 UTC
Nullsec angels:

Carrier > Mach/Golem/Vargur/TFI/Rattlesnake > T3

Carrier is the best angel ratter by far using bouncers with 4+ drone damage mods, 2+ omnidirs, 2 sebo and 4+ drone control units. Free ammo and 1250 applied dps to 70-100km. Keep an eye on intel channels, preferably realtime on your cyno array/alt, and warp at 70km to the sites (or 80 if you are confident with altering the default warp).

Mach/Golem/Rattlesnake are good at soloing DED complexes in addition to anomalies and can run everything solo except for the hard 10/10 (the one without antimatter channeler). Rattlesnake and Golem have an in-built bonus in the low ammo consumption. Use these with MJD and cruise missiles.

Tengu dps is plain bad versus angels, so the best thing to do with those is to run the DED sites. Fit a large shield extender for buffer against 10/10 channeler and keep a cool head with the webifiers in 8/10 last room.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#13 - 2013-06-15 22:28:22 UTC
Golem I think would work particularly well. Pretty good dps, pure damage type, nice tank bonus, good resist profile (only really need explosive hardeners vs angels), and still cheaper than a mach.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-15 22:46:01 UTC
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Golem I think would work particularly well. Pretty good dps, pure damage type, nice tank bonus, good resist profile (only really need explosive hardeners vs angels), and still cheaper than a mach.


For angel null ratting purposes you want either 2x invul or EM + invul on golem. Gist Seraphim deals mostly EM damage, Gist Cherubim thermal, and those are the bottleneck high end spawns that determine whether you can run the sites or not.
Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-06-16 01:20:13 UTC
You can solo 2 sites with 2 afk ishtars. They're combined worth 1 Tengu.
wndg
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-06-16 06:16:58 UTC
Steve Spooner wrote:
You can solo 2 sites with 2 afk ishtars. They're combined worth 1 Tengu.

wouldnt that require me to have good drone skills ? cause i dont have those
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-16 06:20:34 UTC
yeah ishtar needs sentries to do well.

I would just get a mach tbh.

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