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[Request] Contracts: Private to multiple characters
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Vexaliant Uhad
#1 - 2013-04-15 14:45:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Vexaliant Uhad
I would like to see some honest support get behind this simple idea that would make internal programs that are ran by corporations easier.

Basically it would allow a member to make a contract that could be sent to lets say the directors of the Corp they are in. This would allow only directors to be able to accept the contract.

The reason I ask this is because I currently run a corporation that does a mineral buy back program through empty cost contracts to one single person in the corporation. The task has become a lot larger than originally conceived and we now require more hands on the deck! But it would start to get confusing to ask people to try to split their contracts evenly between multiple people.

If there was a way to list multiple people in the private name field, send it to a mailing list, or send it to a group/title laid out in the corp permissions, or another corporate permission tag added for "director contract access" or something which allows you to "answer" contracts made privately to the directors of the corp.

Please show me some support behind the idea if you get where I am going with this!


Just to recap, these are the 3 main ideas I think could be implemented as a solution:



  1. Allow for multiple people to be pointed at when making a private contract and have character names separated by a comma just as you would if you were sending a mail. -> Private To: Vexaliant Uhad, Otherplayername, Anotherone, goodexAMple

  2. Allow for members of a corp to send a contract to a special "bin" that can only be accepted by players that have been given access to it through permissions, allowing for me to say, Person A, B, and C can accept private "director contracts" but not player D, though player D can make contracts to that group.

  3. My favorite, allow for someone to create a mailing list. And in that mailing list settings, have a tick box that says, "allow for contracts made to mailing list?" Then it would do something like, require you to make the mailing list be private (so no one can join unannounced) and as a player, let you send contracts to that mailing list, and anyone in that mailing list can accept it and take care of it.


If there are more ideas out there, let me know!
Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#2 - 2013-04-15 14:52:10 UTC
Vexaliant Uhad wrote:
I would like to see some honest support get behind this simple idea that would make internal programs that are ran by corporations easier.

Basically it would allow a member to make a contract that could be sent to lets say the directors of the Corp they are in. This would allow only directors to be able to accept the contract.

The reason I ask this is because I currently run a corporation that does a mineral buy back program through empty cost contracts to one single person in the corporation. The task has become a lot larger than originally conceived and we now require more hands on the deck! But it would start to get confusing to ask people to try to split their contracts evenly between multiple people.

If there was a way to list multiple people in the private name field, send it to a mailing list, or send it to a group/title laid out in the corp permissions, or another corporate permission tag added for "director contract access" or something which allows you to "answer" contracts made privately to the directors of the corp.

Please show me some support behind the idea if you get where I am going with this!



not sure I've read it right, but you want to be able to have contracts to a small group of people, either within your corp, but not everyone in corp, or out of corp?

For posting an idea into F&I: come up with idea, try and think how people could abuse this, try to fix your idea - loop the process until you can't see how it could be abused, then post to the forums to let us figure out how to abuse it..... If your idea can be abused, it [u]WILL[/u] be.
Vexaliant Uhad
#3 - 2013-04-15 14:56:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Vexaliant Uhad
Yes. I think.

I am sorry if it is hard to explain.

I have a set of people that I would like to be able to have contracts assigned to them by members in the corporation. But not just one of them, I would like a member to be able to assign it to those 2-3 people all at once, and those 2-3 people be the only ones that can see/accept it. Basically expanding on the ability to make it private to one person, but instead allowing you to add multiple people to that field.

That is simply one way to solve it. I rambled a bit about the idea of doing it through mailing lists or groups in corp permissions. Does that help?
DumboSki
Solarmark
Stellarium Alliance
#4 - 2013-04-15 15:59:47 UTC
I feel this could help out buy back programs quite a bit. Putting the load on one person can be quite the burden, but allowing a contract to be made to a group of people, like the Directors of the corporation, would allow for any of them to be able to accept and payout the contract. I like the idea of a 'mailing list' group to be set as the contract availability.

Hope this sees some attention for the best.
Xavier Zedicus
Eidolon Reticulum
#5 - 2013-04-15 16:20:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Xavier Zedicus
This is easy with some creativity and use of resources at hand.

You already have corp hangers which can be set with different levels of access, and there already exist password protected station containers. You throw a station container in a corp hanger for every person involved and each person gets their password and each member involved in resolving the program gets a list of all the passwords. Seems pretty simple to me, it's just a burecratic pain, but that's what "corporation" implies.

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Vexaliant Uhad
#6 - 2013-04-15 16:28:57 UTC
Xavier Zedicus wrote:
This is easy with some creativity and use of resources at hand.

You already have corp hangers which can be set with different levels of access, and there already exist password protected station containers. You throw a station container in a corp hanger for every person involved and each person gets their password and each member involved in resolving the program gets a list of all the passwords. Seems pretty simple to me, it's just a burecratic pain, but that's what "corporation" implies.


That is a great idea, assuming you have a smaller corp that is located in one single system.

We have multiple systems and we do all the hauling, so all members have to do is contract it to us, we pay them and accept it and go get the goods.

This solution is not only something that could help my situation. There are other implications along with this change that I am sure you can see.
Greed Hammer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-04-18 02:39:16 UTC
DumboSki wrote:
I feel this could help out buy back programs quite a bit. Putting the load on one person can be quite the burden, but allowing a contract to be made to a group of people, like the Directors of the corporation, would allow for any of them to be able to accept and payout the contract. I like the idea of a 'mailing list' group to be set as the contract availability.

Hope this sees some attention for the best.


This......

Would definitly make things easier. This would allow multiple people to help do a sometimes very tedious job.
Seraphina Oriana
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-06-15 09:28:24 UTC
This would be epic, but it would have uses outside of mineral buybacks, for example - I may want to sell something cheaper to say my corporation, but also some specific people or my alliance, plus those I have set to Good/Excellent standing.

I would love something like this.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#9 - 2013-06-15 11:26:43 UTC
So basically what you're really asking for is the ability to have certain roles within your corporation that allow for accepting corporate contracts, so that you can simply make a contract out to the corp and then only the appropriate people are able to accept the contracts as necessary.

Doesn't this role already exist?
Vexaliant Uhad
#10 - 2013-06-29 21:06:31 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
So basically what you're really asking for is the ability to have certain roles within your corporation that allow for accepting corporate contracts, so that you can simply make a contract out to the corp and then only the appropriate people are able to accept the contracts as necessary.

Doesn't this role already exist?


Nope. A contract made to a corporation allows anyone in that corporation to accept it. (this is tested by making a contract private to my corp and it was able to be collected by any member.