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XL-SMA Issue.

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QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#1 - 2013-06-10 20:05:36 UTC
We recently discovered that the new SMAs have one major flaw. Depending on the placement of the SMA, someone could come up to your pos and hug the shields, if they didnt have the password but had the correct roles, and board ships from the SMA from outside of the pos.

This is especially true on the end of the SMA, where it looks like a handle is sticking out, as the placement of the SMA can lead to people being able to board ships from outside the shields.

To be able to get this to work, your ship/pod has to be bouncing off of the shields. If CCP can take a look at this that would be great.

Gary Bell
Therapy.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2013-06-11 11:52:24 UTC
BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... Poor Qt.. Sad face
Dietrich III
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-11 12:53:02 UTC
Or you could...yanno...submit a bug report to actually get CCP to fix this.

Oh wait I already filed one for you. You're welcome <3
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#4 - 2013-06-12 08:41:00 UTC
Hey guys... keep the trolling out of this forum. Dont be tards.This is where I am trying to see if other people in eve online have experienced the same issue and know a workaround. I already have a bug report up, as do like 30 other people in our corp.

Now keep the smack out of these forums ya idiots.
MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-06-12 21:07:09 UTC
Thx for the topic. Any ideas on workarounds? I suspect it can be dependant on the place of initial laucnhing into space, but doubt it. So far we have it confirmed for 3 XLs and that's really a problem as it is a serious breach in security.

CCP, denial to use any inside-FF structure from out of FF would be great. Please confirm you are reading the topic.
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#6 - 2013-06-12 22:03:01 UTC
We tried all 8 positions, yes there are only 8 feasible positions, for these. Then we tried scooping and then anchoring on the spot where they were, but no dice. It just didnt want to work at all.
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#7 - 2013-06-13 22:30:30 UTC
This thread requires Dev attention. some of those 8 positions are harder to rob then others but given enough time i was able to get into the SMA at all 8. So there is no "saf" ay to do it, nor is it a issue of player mistakes

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Infinite Force
#8 - 2013-06-13 23:03:46 UTC
Would not a 'simple' solution be to just reduce the overall size of that behemouth by 50% ?

That would solve the access issue and give you more options to where you could actually anchor the blasted thing.

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QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#9 - 2013-06-14 19:58:40 UTC
First response to one of the bug reports said working as intended, then went on to say that they may expand the description of the module later...

Useless module.
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#10 - 2013-06-14 21:04:17 UTC
Thanks QT for pointing this out. We have one and the work around we are going with for the time being is managing access through roles, Config Only. This may work for some until CCP clears up the problem and either reduces the size, range, or positions of the XL-SMA in the POS.

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MisterAl tt1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-06-15 02:49:01 UTC  |  Edited by: MisterAl tt1
Made some work on the issue demonstration.

Here is a big picture: http://pol.org.ua/eve/xlsmaallcases.jpg
First screenshots are dedicated to possible positions of anchoring. (a video version was provided to W -CSM guys, if they youtube it - link will be provided, I hope)
Then 8 XL-SMAs are placed in all "normal" positions (not having parts visually outside the forcefield). All 8 are named with number accordingly.
Then I close the POS and come back in a Dramiel. I press approach to each XL-SMA and wait. In some time the ship find the spot, were I'm closer then 3km to the given XL-SMA, without entering the field. At this range I can board ships from it, what I did at Tranq.
So there are 8 screenshots with me being closer them 3 km to each of 8 XL-SMAs (Distance if highlighted).

For our wormhole corporation it means that instead of 5 XL-SMAs we have purchased, we will need only one, for officers, restricted to Fuel-operator. Usual system (used by not only our corp). of people living in different POSes with password protection to prevent global theft, would not work at all if XL-SMAs are used.

CCP have given us a personal hangar array to increase assets safety (though it is really useless, actually), but now the safety of ships is completely compromised if we want to use this great ability to use XL-SMAs.

I know some corporations have already taken down their XL-SMAs. We restrict access for the night currently. If we see CCP is not even remotely interested in the topic - we'll take them down too and I personally would be very "greatfull" for all the time and corporation ISK we have spent on this.
QT McWhiskers
MultiPass Inc.
The 5th Seal
#12 - 2013-06-26 21:26:47 UTC
Without breaking the eula, the response to my bug report was, this is not a bug... its a feature.