These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Ships & Modules

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page123
 

T2 large rigs

First post
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#41 - 2013-06-12 10:47:24 UTC
OP, Perhaps you don’t know the cost involved in building the T2 variants so here is a simple list for a CCC rig.

T1
Melted Capacitor Console ...qty 23 - 9k isk
Burned Logic Circuit........... qty 86 - 48k isk
Tripped Power Circuit......... qty 75 - 150k isk
.....................................................15.5 mil
T2
R.A.M – Energy tech .....qty 1 - 57k isk
Logic Circuit ................qty 17 - 295k isk
Power Circuit ................qty 15 - 4mil isk
Capacitor Console ..........qty 5 - 11 mil isk
................................................120 mil

None of these cost are set by CCP, they are all market derived by supply and demand, the most important thing to note is that the salvage from missions and ratting are the only components that go into these (No mining involved) so if the cost are to high it is probably because the mission/ratters are not salvaging the components thus creating a supply problem and at the same time creating a demand problem.

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
#42 - 2013-06-12 12:19:13 UTC
Quote:
None of these cost are set by CCP, they are all market derived by supply and demand, the most important thing to note is that the salvage from missions and ratting are the only components that go into these (No mining involved) so if the cost are to high it is probably because the mission/ratters are not salvaging the components thus creating a supply problem and at the same time creating a demand problem.

Inaccurate, CCP does indeed set the cost of Rigs by game mechanics % drop chance of this or that Salvage component. T2 salvage amount was reduced a while back during the kinda nerf to Magno sites. The majority of T2 Large Rigs were around 50-80 mil for YEARS from at least ~2006-2009. I was shocked when I came back to Eve this Feb after a couple year hiatus to find certain (but not all) T2 Rigs at costs of ~280 mil. This is certainly due to a sharp increase in Cap ships over the years since so many players can fly them now but that isn't the sole reason.

However, cost is still irrelevant because if you want a better ship, you will find a way to make the ISK to Rig it with T2.

The Operative: "There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".

Capt. Malcolm Reynolds: "You have no idea how true that is".
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#43 - 2013-06-13 17:50:21 UTC
I don't see the problem with large T2 rigs price. Unless you are fliying a cap, the extra % in armor given by a trimark T2 VS trimark T1 will most likely not save your ass. If you can afford 750m in rigs for a T1 hull...go ahead. If you are flying a bhaalgorn with T1 rigs, yes, you are doing it bad =(
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-06-14 14:10:57 UTC
Effect One wrote:
I only ever fit T2 large rigs on pirate battleships.




T3's for specific uses personally and only, otherwise T1 rigs are good enough and cheapo +3 implants are cheaper, add a combat booster and that's it you have the bang for the buck.
When it has to blow up it will blow up, rather have 2 pirate ships T1 rigged than 1pirate ship T2 rigged, but it's a personal choice.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-06-14 14:14:12 UTC
Goldiiee wrote:
OP, Perhaps you don’t know the cost involved in building the T2 variants so here is a simple list for a CCC rig.

T1
Melted Capacitor Console ...qty 23 - 9k isk
Burned Logic Circuit........... qty 86 - 48k isk
Tripped Power Circuit......... qty 75 - 150k isk
.....................................................15.5 mil
T2
R.A.M – Energy tech .....qty 1 - 57k isk
Logic Circuit ................qty 17 - 295k isk
Power Circuit ................qty 15 - 4mil isk
Capacitor Console ..........qty 5 - 11 mil isk
................................................120 mil

None of these cost are set by CCP, they are all market derived by supply and demand, the most important thing to note is that the salvage from missions and ratting are the only components that go into these (No mining involved) so if the cost are to high it is probably because the mission/ratters are not salvaging the components thus creating a supply problem and at the same time creating a demand problem.



Players can also fit a salvager on their ship, get T2 salvage components with exploration, buy cheaper T2 rig BPC's and build themselves, it's not free, it will just cost isk to the guys not selling theirs at 100% benefit.

removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Darco Aldent
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-06-17 06:35:00 UTC
Ty again for listen to my post, i can see now the t2 large rigs are droping in price . From280M when i first wrote to 200M now. Ty
Airto TLA
Acorn's Wonder Bars
#47 - 2013-06-18 15:29:32 UTC
The price drop may have something to do with new exploration, since they seem to be dropping 0/0 ML/PL blueprint copies and that lowers the need for materials.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-06-18 16:21:07 UTC
T2 rigs are fine as is. Just like everything in Eve if you want something "maxed" it's going to cost you. It's called diminishing returns.
Mother Drone
Transcendent Breed
#49 - 2013-06-18 19:46:48 UTC
Airto TLA wrote:
The price drop may have something to do with new exploration, since they seem to be dropping 0/0 ML/PL blueprint copies and that lowers the need for materials.


The Me/PE 0/0 bpcs dropped already before Odyssey.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-06-20 00:35:22 UTC
its summer time, the US younger players are on vacation. Lots of free time and not as greedy as the adults are lol.


Summer is usually a good time to find some deals here and there. When fall hits you get the back to school market change and back to the adutls trying to squeeze out every isk they can.
Previous page123