EVE New Citizens Q&A

Just a quick question about recovering from a ship loss:

I was doing one of the military tutorials (8) when my ship was destroyed within 5 seconds i had previously taken out platinum insurance and i got a ISK payout. The problem is that I've forgotten the names of the fittings on the lost ship, and have no idea on how to refit a new ship...

Any tips/pointers would be much appreciated . Only been playing for a day, but have enjoyed it all so far-even the ship loss, surprisingly.

One last thing: is a more competitive price on a ship worth all the distance/jumping?

Thanks.

open your character sheet [alt a]
scroll down to Combat Log

click 'show losses'
double click on the relevant ship entry

your lost fit will be displayed in a pop up window

As for how to fit a ship:

- Rightclick the ship and Show Info on it.
- Read the ship description to see what bonuses it has for what guns or modules.
- Switch to the Fittings and look at how many high, medium, and low slots it has, and how many turrets or missiles.

- Decide whether you want to fight close up and personal, or from a distance. NPCs have a tendency to come close to you, but for PVP it's your choice.

- Buy and put weapons in the ship; use the weapons that the ship has bonuses for. For short range hybrids, for example, you want blasters, for long range you want rails. Rockets or Light Missiles. Pulse or Beam lasers. Autocannons or Artillery projectile weapons. You are limited by the number of high slots and the number of Turret or Missile launchers, and by the power grid of the ship.

- If you have more med slots than low slots, put in shield defenses. Small Shield Booster, Small Shield Extender, Shield Hardeners for resistances. You will likely have to train extra skills to install these.

- If you have more low slots than med slots, put in armor defenses. Small Armor Repairer, 100mm Plates, Armor Hardeners.

- If there's room, put a 1mn Afterburner in a med slot, it helps with speed.

- If there's room, put in a Cap Recharger in a med slot to help you have enough juice for your armor repairer, or Reactor Control Unit in a low slot to help with shield defenses.

- If the ship has a drone bay, add Light Scout Drones; Hobgoblins for example.

No.

It's only bad luck and/or inexperience that causes ship loss in that mission. (You're thinking of a couple of the advanced military missions.)

Military tutorial Mission 8 is a bit sneaky and gives no prior warning about the smart bomb on the hotel which therefore comes as a complete surprise - as do the three very lethal rats that spawn immediately afterwards.

Also, in future you can save your fitting by clicking the 'save' button at the bottom of the ship fitting window when you have that open (alt + f, or by clicking on the fitting services icon in station). You can access any fits you've saved by clicking the 'browse' button.


edit: Oh, and if you have the fitting management window opened and a ship fitting you've previously saved selected , and have the modules for that fit in the hangar you're at - by clicking on the "fit" button on the bottom your active ship will be fitted the same way as the fit you have selected. Handy. For corporate fits or personal fits.

Fittings is something you'll eventually begin to memorize. For now, unfortunately you just gotta kinda re-invent the wheel, in terms of re-fitting a new one. On the bright side, that's precisely how you start to get a better grasp on modules and ship-fitting, and costs.


That's entirely dependent on your income ability, and your wallet size, and it will change drastically, depending.
For me, because I've spent a good deal of time on market research, and figuring out how to be a competent trader, my income ability is pretty high, and the more time I spend gathering ships and modules, the less time I'm spending on either making money, or having fun. So for me, it's worthwhile to buy expensive components, even when they're cheaper a few jumps away. It's cheaper for me to buy expensive things.
The idea of 'opportunity cost' ends up recurring in Eve quite a lot, in this way.

For you, I'm guessing your wallet is small, and your income ability is small yet. That's just the way it is, when you're new. So keep an eye on how much money you make over time. Try to get a rough figure on how much isk you can get in an hour, for example. Once you know that, then you'll be able to better estimate whether it's worth your time to travel to the local trade hub.

But.... and this is a big but... Spending 'a lot' of money on something when you're a newbie isn't a big deal. Objectively, it's small compared to what you'll eventually be buying. By next week, the price difference you were fretting over will probably be of absolutely no concern anymore. So it hardly matters if you're wasting money in the early stages, or making 'bad' opportunity-cost decisions.

Right now, your REAL currency is knowledge. Once you've 'saved up' a certain level of knowledge about the games mechanics and economy and interactions, then ISK costs become something you can better monitor and manage.
So for now, I say: Waste money. Who gives a flip. It's pennies. Your day to day experience is what's going to pay dividends by next month.

www.battleclinic.com has lots and lots of fittings for all kinds of ships.

Now, the quality of this site might be disputed in some circles and with the ship rebalancing some fittings might be somewhat outdated as well, but I believe they can give you some idea of what to do and what not. (There are, after all, fits that can be considered optimal for a certain ship for a certain job - especially PVE - which will differ only in some detail from each other.)

Just don´t follow it slavishly and especially don´t tailor your skill queue just for that one fitting because it looks good.

The Bantam will perform better than the Ibis but you can get a new Ibis whenever you like by docking your pod at any station where you don't have a ship.

Thanks for the Pyfa recommendation - not playing on Windows makes it difficult at times. Do you happen to know how to enable the in game shortcut keys for a Mac, by any chance?

Much appreciated

No problem, thanks anyway