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GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 35,121
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#1 - 2013-06-12 12:46:55 UTC 1 is that what i'm hearing? then what is it for?? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Dato Koppla

Balls Deep Inc.

Minmatar Fleet Alliance

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#2 - 2013-06-12 12:58:16 UTC

Archon is undoubtedly the best triage carrier because of the preference of armor caps and the Archon gets a resist bonus and cap transfer bonus which is invaluable in a triage fit. For ratting I don't see why you'd want to use an Archon over a Thanny, the cap transfer bonus is not used, and tank is hardly a problem for a ratting carrier so the resist bonus isn't that useful either while the Fighter Damage bonus for the Thanny might actually see some use though from what I hear Sentries are by far more popular so in that case either will perform similarly.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#3 - 2013-06-12 13:04:22 UTC 1 makes sense. gallente. but because the archon is tankier, pilots prefer it as a drone platform over over the drone boat, is that correct? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Crrrazy Ivan

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 118

#4 - 2013-06-12 13:05:11 UTC

Rain6637 wrote:

is that what i'm hearing? then what is it for??

Don't get me wrong, the Thanatos is still a decent armour Carrier but unfortunately, it is outclassed by the Archon in most aspects.

Want a triage Carrier? The Archon's resist bonus, slot layout and bonus to energy transfer completely outclasses the Thanatos' triage ability.
Want a ratting Carrier? Once again, the resist bonus and slot layout will give the Archon more tank and gank with Sentry ratting. Ratting with Fighters is simply not that prevalent anymore.
Want a boot Carrier? Well, every Carrier is useful but once again, the Archon shines the most.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#5 - 2013-06-12 13:11:05 UTC 1 the backstory is, i fitted 12 thannys before odyssey. even in the 2B range, i still have 10. not the worst mistake i've made, but damn. nevermind my flop... i can hock them, but thannys are stuck being thannys Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)


Dato Koppla Balls Deep Inc. Minmatar Fleet Alliance Likes received: 939	#6 - 2013-06-12 13:14:20 UTC 2 You should be able to sell them eventually, there's still some demand for Thannies but yeah, as said in previous posts, it's generally outclassed by the Archon in every way that matters (so are the other carriers to some extent)

Crrrazy Ivan

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 118

#7 - 2013-06-12 13:15:30 UTC

Rain6637 wrote:

the backstory is, i fitted 12 thannys before odyssey. even in the 2B range, i still have 10. not the worst mistake i've made, but damn.

nevermind my flop... i can hock them, but thannys are stuck being thannys

As a Thanatos pilot, they aren't great but you should be more than capable of flogging them for a good price. They've always been rather expensive simply because they're used for ratting.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#8 - 2013-06-12 13:21:19 UTC 1 im about to fit them up as triage or drone boat, but im having a hard time justifying the effort. i think i'll triage fit them and price them as welp triage, and never touch thannys again. dead serial. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)


Crrrazy Ivan University of Caille Gallente Federation Likes received: 118	#9 - 2013-06-12 13:25:18 UTC 1 Rain6637 wrote: im about to fit them up as triage or drone boat, but im having a hard time justifying the effort. i think i'll triage fit them and price them as welp triage, and never touch thannys again. dead serial. You'd do a lot better fitting them as "Boot" or "Pantheon" Carriers purely because of the vast amount of entities using them at the moment.

Solstice Systems Development Enterprises 14
Arek Bardwin Solstice Systems Development Enterprises Likes received: 14	#10 - 2013-06-12 13:41:18 UTC was not aware thannys were being pantheon fit

T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 18
Xander Det89 T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan Likes received: 18	#11 - 2013-06-12 16:21:16 UTC Resist bonus will always be the clincher, if shield caps were favoured then the Chimera would be king similarly. Poor Niddy and Thanny in the middle :(.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#12 - 2013-06-12 16:35:44 UTC \| Edited by: Rain6637 reminds me of the guardian/basilisk and "then those other two" situation what's the latest gossip about a possible fix? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Xander Det89

T.R.I.A.D

Ushra'Khan

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#13 - 2013-06-12 17:58:40 UTC

Not heard anything, in theory the resist nerf was about levelling the playing field between rep boost bonuses (local and remote) and on hull resist bonuses. But tbh, even if it was just 1% per level it'd still be better, more resists just is... better. Maybe raw HP boost bonus? Still won't go all the way, would only fix the EHP gaps in minimal rep situations but just turns your ship into a sponge for reps with lower resists.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#14 - 2013-06-12 19:13:07 UTC \| Edited by: Rain6637 so... "wow, not-archon carriers are fail" <-wrong for reaching that conclusion? ..let's see what's playing: archons revenge of the archons the archon strikes back the archon strikes again archon archon archon archon: 2 Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 1,949
Tsukino Stareine Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation Likes received: 1,949	#15 - 2013-06-12 19:18:11 UTC 3 they need to buff fighters Art of Explosions

Viziam Amarr Empire 13
consuasor Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 13	#16 - 2013-06-12 20:45:02 UTC 1 Tsukino Stareine wrote: they need to buff fighters This is spot on. 200 Base dps should be a reasonable buff; mechanics wise they have their place.


consuasor Viziam Amarr Empire Likes received: 13	#17 - 2013-06-12 20:46:32 UTC 1 Rain6637 wrote: reminds me of the guardian/basilisk and "then those other two" situation what's the latest gossip about a possible fix? Scimitar and Oneiros definitely have their place. Oneiros is rather limited to small gangs though.


Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation Likes received: 35,121	#18 - 2013-06-13 02:19:21 UTC \| Edited by: Rain6637 weak comparison, then. compared to the archon's superiority in its class. why do ppl train thannys... because it's on the way to a nyx? Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)

Doomheim 86
Tasha Saisima Doomheim Likes received: 86	#19 - 2013-06-13 03:29:49 UTC Tsukino Stareine wrote: they need to buff fighters when a cheap battleship does the same or slightly more dps then fighters in a carrier, there is a problem. hopefully, carriers will get looked at and get some dps buffs so they are used for more than triage and slowcats

Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2,431
Loco Kamikaze Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 2,431	#20 - 2013-06-13 03:53:48 UTC \| Edited by: Loco Kamikaze why such low target maxes? what's the advantage they're attempting to limit with it? ..having the spare targeting to pre-lock small targets? that I should worry about losing my hearing is nonsense, because there will always be -=BASS=-