EVE General Discussion

Speaking from someone who has been playing EVE a little too much lately, please review this post with the understanding that not everyone plays full time.

"ICE is failing with the new setup because it doesn't allow a player to select ICE mining as a profession"

If a person plays only an hour or so a day, they can't select ICE as a profession period and expect to grow in the trade, due to the limited supply and spawn times. I had a bunch of miners that I was milking the system with before the update and YES, it was gravy ISK. So, after the patch I bailed on the big league production and just thought to have a miner or two mine every once in a while, but there just isn't enough ICE to make it a profession, when you are competing with the big league boys. I went out to the spawns only to find them filled with ORCA fleets ripping them up in less then 30 minutes per spawn.

This post isn't to complain for me, as I have already moved on - out of ICE.

It's for EVE in general and the casual players, those interested in getting into ICE as a profession in a Mom and Pop sort of way. It's just not there any more unless the player is willing to change his playing time, which seems pretty "ridiculous" seeing it's not a real job.....please!


DO THIS TO FIX ICE.

Just change the cycle time to 2 times longer than it was (not shorter as you did). Cutting it in half was a mistake! If it takes twice as long as it use to harvest, then the ICE will remain in space longer and allow more players to mine during what ever time they log in. The price will adjust to the new variable. Just make sure that the same allocation of ICE per day is limited, and adjust the spawn times dynamically, not every 4 hours per spawn.

To be fair, a player should be able to log in whatever time they can play this game and have a feature available to them to check out or dive in to. It seems only the FULL TIMERS would not agree!

Peace

People keep talking about this new Intrusion Countermeasure Electronics that have been added to the game, but I just can't seem to find any. I mean, even the new exploration minigame calls it plain old “virus”, which is a different thing…

It's not that it's not in my area, as it is. There are two systems right next to each other, one has 3 spawns and the other just 1 spawn. So I will log in at different times during the day to check the areas to see how it's all working out, and sure enough they are packed and I'll have two miners and get two loads (50 blocks each or less) before the spawn in over.

Again, this isn't to complain about me, more about EVE game play in general.

Exploration is really hard for me, but I know it I get good at it, I will figure out those stupid probes....... If I had to log in at a certain time to explore, it would also be a fail as well.

That's like saying, don't RUN MISSIONS when you want to.

If mission agents handed out missions every 4 hours, that wouldn't work either.


In fact that's a GREAT idea..... have ICE in mission spawns like they have ORE......

Ice mining is Much better now man, c'mon, its quicker and no longer an AFKers paradise, admit it, before Odyssey you liked Ice Mining cos you didn't Actually Play Eve and made lots of ISK. Now its at least more engaging, and yeah, Halving Cycling times Rocks! (Pardon the Pun)

I would say it's different now, not better though.

There are different game styles and moods players have, sometimes your just chill and want an AFK style of game play, other times you want battles.

So, ORE is the new ICE, for the AFK style sort of. There is just no more set it and forget it feature ...

I get it for sure... the idea anyway. It's hard to argue the spawn timing issue and it's also hard to argue the AFK feature.

I know few FULL time players don't like AFK game play, and most Full timers are the ones in the forums.

They could fix ORE instead and leave ICE as is... Make the Asteroids bigger and fewer in each belt, so there isn't so much re-targeting.... .. Yes, you can tell i miss ICE ......

There is a set and forget feature. It's called Research/Production. Research and Production takes time. And skill. But mostly time. And a lot of that time is unattended.

I suppose that's an idea for sure...

I think the real issue is AFK or Relaxed game play. A Style of play that you can do in the background while doing something else. Yes, I had just found out about ICE about 3 weeks before the update and thought "this is amazing" and bought a bunch of miners, etc... and sure enough it's gone, so sure, I'm a bit bummed... it's all good though.

I love to try out new expensive ships, so I was trying to find a way to make a sort of passive ISK to cover those costs, and ICE was perfect mix....... it's like a lost love, I suppose... better in memory than in person.

I am just throwing out the vibe in case others feel it to.

I'm sorry you're botting software is having issues with the new changes

No, I don't bot..... I used a software program called ISBoxer to manage the 12 accounts. I had to click all the toons, so that's why i was trying to reduce the number of clicks....