EVE New Citizens Q&A

So.. ive been playing Eve for about 4 months now, I have 2 accounts that ive been multiboxing for a couple weeks now, and thats going all good and everything..


But I am really starting to see that Eve cliff climb..

om my main toon, I feel I am doing alriight for how long I have been playing, but whenever I try to go into the PVP relm I just get annialated by people that have 5 years worth of skills backing them.

But I am getting sick and tired of pve. I just cant stand to shoot another npc, or deliver another bottle of spiced wine. its just so borrring to do ALL THE TIME.

I have been thru half a dozen corps now, none of them seem to really have the sort of things that I'm looking for. Ether they are 24/7 mining industrialists, or they are PvPers that are in a lot of wars, and the only time I am able to undock safely is when the corp wanted to go out, because of wardecs.

I just cant seem to find an active corp that is somewhere in the middle. i would love to look forward to daily roams, and get to pew pew but I don't want to have to sacrifice any pve for that, as that is what it seems like. Choose one or the other..

Why is corp hunting so hard??

So, if by chance you are reading this and want to recommend a corp Im all ears at this point!

Thanks :)

I see 2 weird things in your OP:

1.) You think that SP are the biggest force multiplier. They are not.


2.) You want to PvP, but you find that PvP corps have too many wars. That's the whole idea of a PvP corp, have many wars cause it gives them targets.

Here is a guide that might help:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=245333&find=unread

ARGH...Ninja-mom.

thanks for the posts

But that is what is making it challenging for me-- Theres a difference between light pvp where ya go into low/null on a roam for a couple hrs here and there

But then thers a complete different situation when your wardec'd and every hisec gate is camped with Loki's prothius's and Tengu's.

I just don't want to have to deal with that in hi sec. As I said in my original post. I don't wanna have to be worried about undocking my drake in hisec to go run a mission or 2 without being blasted by bits before I can even warp off, because my corp mates arn't there to clear the way with THEIR t3 ships. (the ones I don't have the skill points for yet)

I find a lot that people don't think the skills are required but they forget how much they have-and take them for granted. Hell I did that when I started my second char. the first few days of that, i just felt so pathetic and weak with that toon. Still is pretty weak since Ive only developed industrial skills

But yea. I was in Brave Newbies for the course of 2 days, same thing. Great PvP corp, if thats all ya wanna do. But good luck doing a mission- Which as I said I dont wanna sacrifice. That is my income. Without that I will be out of isk in no time.

But yea, Thankyou for the posts i shall read thru them now :)

I wonder if militia can give ppl pvp experience they are searching for...

And one more idea of how to find active PvP corp, that keeps low profile: check local killboard...

I'm kinda in the same situation atm; I really do want to learn and do PVP but at the same time I want to be able to sit back and relax when *I* want to, without having to look over my shoulder every minute. For that I made an alt, gave it a bit of basic training (2 weeks is more than enough to get some basic frigate and support skills) and put it in RvB. That way I can literally switch between "pvp mode" or not, while still training skills and doing PVE (for now at least) on Kyra.

Perhaps an idea for you.

On the subject of wardecs: why not look into a lowsec based PVP corp? When you base out of lowsec there is very little point in wardeccing you in the first place. You will gain valuable pvp and pvp-prevention techniques simply by living in dangerous space. Also, there's room to actually combine PVE with PVP in anomalies, signatures and belts. I always belt-ratted while scanning for targets, and the introduction of Clone tags sees me giving chase to a lot more people.

Consider looking at 0.0 corps.
Lots of PVP but often only "Strat Ops" and CTAs are mandatory. Especially in renting corps, you will not need to join every PVP roam/op posted. Especially if you are just getting into pvp you may want to stay out of the west side of space as Everything is on fire there at the moment (from Esoteria to Fountain, including Delve).

You will also make ISK enough doing combat sites and belt ratting.

All I can say is that hopping from corp to corp every time the going gets a little rough does you no favors. you don't learn how to adapt and it makes your employment history look bad to potential corps that might really be the closest thing to a perfect fit for you.

The little alliance I am in has been wardecced for roughly 90% of the time I have been with them, which is nearly the whole time I have been playing this game. It wasn't pleasant at all at first, but now I guess I treat it as a normal state of affairs. EVE is a PvP game and war is at the heart of nearly everything.

And as for being wrecked all the time by players with years of skill time ahead of us; as far as highsec wardecs that is true. But if you find a corp that sponsors roams into low and even null, you'll find that the tables can be turned quite easily. Yesterday a group of us, led by some great guys who've been in the game a long time and who are willing to train noobs like me, went into nullsec with Talwars! - yes, those funny-looking rickety Minmatar missile destroyers - and wrecked a few unsuspecting players who were far more experienced and who were in far better ships. It was tons of fun and this is the sort of thing you could be doing if you would just stick around with a decent corp instead of running away every time something tickles you.

Forget that. There is no difference, you are just known as a part timer. Part timers get wardeced by full timers.

The problem with most high sec corps is they use the part time PvP as a recruitment tool but have no idea what they are doing. Those make great targets for war decers. It usually starts like this:

Part timer CEO: Hey guys this war is gunna be fun I don't care if I loose a few ships.

Three days later...

Part timer corp members: WTF I lost all my ships and there are war targets on the station I can't even go to Jita. This isn't fun anymore I'm just going to play WoW till this war is over.

just my 2 cents on the pvp skillpoint barrier, im basing this on a 1v1 with both parties using a similar fit so take it with a grain of salt.

yes personal skill/experiance matter more then character SP, however there is a period of time starting out where the lack of sp is a considerable hurdle. having support skills leveld up makes a huge difference and it takes several months of skilling to get them all to 4-5, their bonuses are tiny but all those 1% start to add up.
i used to think the difference wasent that big until a previous corp of mine mainly comprised of newer players held an all t1 single elimination frig tourny one day with me participating in the last round just in case. every fight was almot dead even with some lasting almost 10 min however when it came my turn i poped the previous leader in less then 30 sec. they scaned my ship to make sure i was using all t1 and proceded to ask me what kind of amazing fit i was using, they pluged it into eft and the results were a bit surprising. the other members were able to get about 40-70 dps with my fit, i was able to get 110 (pre ship rebalance for those wanting to say "but mine does x")

you will eventualy hit a point where all your supports are sufficient and its at this point where you start to become competative in pvp and going against a ship with similar weapons/ mods will be a fair fight it just takes some time. once you hit this point you can train into a ship/fittingand no ammount of skillpoints will make an older player vastly superior to you in that same boat. what you will run into at this stage is that older players will have a longer list of competative level ships at their disposal but will not be able to compleatly outclass you by using the same boat that you have skilled.

the point is the skill gap is not as bad as many newbies lead themselves to beleive, but not as insignificant as many vets lead themselves to beleive either. remember that this is based on an "even" fight, there are plenty of group tactics and even a few solo ones that will give the rookie a possible advantage.

also as said above watch out for those " we do pvp as well" corps as any greifer corp or mermc corp looking for entertainment between contracts will see it as "we dont pvp often enough to be practiced at it but will show up to fights to lose ships when challenged"