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Less fluff, more stuff?
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#1 - 2013-06-10 15:36:20 UTC
Thank you CCP, the game is real pretty now. Now please put down the shaders and pixelators and put on the thinking caps.

As much as the fanbois parrot "player based content, player based content squak", all player based content is built on the framework of content created by CCP. It is time for CCP to do something daring. It is time for CCP to be more creative than the people who play their game.

New exploration and DUST aren't taking this game to the next level. Time to listen to that one employee who seems out of step, because maybe that is where the next big idea is.

Do people agree?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-06-10 15:37:30 UTC
Poasting in a stealth "gimmee WIS naow!!!" thread.


☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-06-10 15:38:54 UTC
Vague call for CCP to start releasing more "something"?

Sure, why not. Give us more of the things, CCP!
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#4 - 2013-06-10 15:40:25 UTC
I'd like to see an actual storyline in the game. Hardly anyone reads the lore and it's not made very prominent in the game.

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic
Amanda Chelian
#5 - 2013-06-10 15:43:29 UTC
I, too, enjoy things™.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#6 - 2013-06-10 15:43:51 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Poasting in a stealth "gimmee WIS naow!!!" thread.



WIS = fluff.

No.

But my guess is your random one liner generator just came up with this response.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#7 - 2013-06-10 15:44:32 UTC
Amanda Chelian wrote:
I, too, enjoy things™.

I do too. Maybe CCP should create a "Give us your big things" thread.
Signal11th
#8 - 2013-06-10 15:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Signal11th
Amanda Chelian wrote:
I, too, enjoy things™.



EG me too like actual content and I don't mean the Miniclip TM flash player hacking game either

I personally prefer to class at least some content supplied by the creator of the game and not have to rely on whoever Mitt's has a hardon for this month.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Katia Pwomperson
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-06-10 15:58:34 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
I'd like to see an actual storyline in the game. Hardly anyone reads the lore and it's not made very prominent in the game.

Amanda Chelian wrote:
I, too, enjoy things™.


I agree with these things.

Nexus Day wrote:

WIS = fluff.

No.

But my guess is your random one liner generator just came up with this response.


It doesn't have to be fluff if there are things to do in WIS, like a black market, as was intended.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#10 - 2013-06-10 16:10:39 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Poasting in a stealth "gimmee WIS naow!!!" thread.



WIS = fluff.

No.

But my guess is your random one liner generator just came up with this response.



If you only complain without providing any alternatives or specific suggestions you are just bitching.


☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#11 - 2013-06-10 18:47:11 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Nexus Day wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Poasting in a stealth "gimmee WIS naow!!!" thread.



WIS = fluff.

No.

But my guess is your random one liner generator just came up with this response.



If you only complain without providing any alternatives or specific suggestions you are just bitching.



Suggestions go into a separate forum. This is a discussion. You should know, you point people in the correct direction all the time....

(smiley face so we stay friends)
Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#12 - 2013-06-10 18:57:17 UTC
If I take my pile of stuff, and add some more stuff to it, I wil be happy?
Darvaleth Sigma
Imperial Security Hegemony
#13 - 2013-06-10 19:06:59 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
I'd like to see an actual storyline in the game. Hardly anyone reads the lore and it's not made very prominent in the game.


Odd, in other games fluff is considered story. So, in that sense, we're asking for less fluff and more... fluff.

Give a man a match and you warm him for a day.

Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#14 - 2013-06-10 19:22:06 UTC
CCP, im not satified with my Chocolate Sundae AND my Brownies AND my Cookies..I want more desserts! Id ask for cake, but we all know by now that the cake is a lie.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#15 - 2013-06-10 20:11:54 UTC
WiS? How Bout walk in SPACE WALK? It's new, it's big, it's out of the box, and on top of that its edgy. Name it something offense, and people will love it.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#16 - 2013-06-10 22:12:59 UTC
I'd like to see an occasional giant space tornado randomly rip through the cluster, from one end to another. "Loki is primary, Loki is.... aaagh, we're all flying arse over **** in a giant twister!" "Leaving EVE, giving everything away, I will double your ISK--- waagh, WTF, I'm in floating corpse! How did that happen, I was docked in Jita!" "Dee, dee, dee, AFK mining... whut the, where'd the 'roids go? Why am I in a wormhole?"
Erutpar Ambient
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-06-10 22:34:47 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP, im not satified with my Chocolate Sundae AND my Brownies AND my Cookies..I want more desserts! Id ask for cake, but we all know by now that the cake is a lie.


I really liked this quote, it makes it realllyyy easy to understand what the OP is saying.
So we have the chocolate sundae and the brownies and the cookies. In odyssey they now look amazingly delicious but for the most part the taste hasn't changed at all. The sundae has a little more whipped cream (scanning/explor) the brownie has frosting (jump effects) and the cookies have more chocolate chips(mining). But the sundae is still made from fat-free icecream, the brownie has no sugar and the cookie is hard as a rock.

What the OP is looking for is the basics, the mechanics. The stuff that causes player actions. Odyssey had lots of glaze but not a lot of meat. Ship chnages may help those ships get used more, but it doesn't encourage more people to fight in general.

I personally vote for T3 nerf sooner than later. T3 = pay to win. When you read about large fleets of 100+ T3s tearing up everything. Well it makes all the other subcaps obsolete... High damage/huge tank/high tracking/small sig/very fast, just basically all around OP. There should be a limit of how much isk you can field based on the number of pilots. And it damn well shouldn't make obsolete so many roles.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#18 - 2013-06-10 23:14:34 UTC
Erutpar Ambient wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
CCP, im not satified with my Chocolate Sundae AND my Brownies AND my Cookies..I want more desserts! Id ask for cake, but we all know by now that the cake is a lie.


I really liked this quote, it makes it realllyyy easy to understand what the OP is saying.
So we have the chocolate sundae and the brownies and the cookies. In odyssey they now look amazingly delicious but for the most part the taste hasn't changed at all. The sundae has a little more whipped cream (scanning/explor) the brownie has frosting (jump effects) and the cookies have more chocolate chips(mining). But the sundae is still made from fat-free icecream, the brownie has no sugar and the cookie is hard as a rock.

What the OP is looking for is the basics, the mechanics. The stuff that causes player actions. Odyssey had lots of glaze but not a lot of meat. Ship chnages may help those ships get used more, but it doesn't encourage more people to fight in general.

I personally vote for T3 nerf sooner than later. T3 = pay to win. When you read about large fleets of 100+ T3s tearing up everything. Well it makes all the other subcaps obsolete... High damage/huge tank/high tracking/small sig/very fast, just basically all around OP. There should be a limit of how much isk you can field based on the number of pilots. And it damn well shouldn't make obsolete so many roles.



Please never stop posting.
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#19 - 2013-06-10 23:27:54 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Thank you CCP, the game is real pretty now. Now please put down the shaders and pixelators and put on the thinking caps.

As much as the fanbois parrot "player based content, player based content squak", all player based content is built on the framework of content created by CCP. It is time for CCP to do something daring. It is time for CCP to be more creative than the people who play their game.

New exploration and DUST aren't taking this game to the next level. Time to listen to that one employee who seems out of step, because maybe that is where the next big idea is.

Do people agree?


No.
Litair
Nleesh
#20 - 2013-06-10 23:45:28 UTC
I just think they really need to add that last incarna bit with walking around in public station areas doing stuff with other people. Might sound like a minor thing, but it really would add a whole new dimension to the game.

Personally I like flying around in fairly empty pockets of low and null space, so when I dock up on some remote outpost of a station, it would be really cool to walk around in there, meet a few other lonely explorers or travelers and maybe make out with them before departing into empty space again. Would be an absolutely awesome dynamic.
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