Player Features and Ideas Discussion

On the one hand, the risk of incursion pigs who are even more elitist than the ones we have now.

On the other hand, the incursion pigs we have now trying to run against full-strength Sleeper AI and getting their multi-billion-ISK pigboats shot and destroyed.

This is a hard decision. Perhaps you might expand more upon what "falling into Sleeper control" entails.

Six systems per faction per year?

So, it's only available in highsec then? In that case it should offer lower rewards than the current ones, which are still too lucrative for the complete lack of risk entailed. And there should be no sleeper loot or salvage or whatever it is WH guys make their money off of to avoid crashing that market.

Well, i didn't say the idea was finished, i was hoping for some input from others to make it better.

Doing it in low-sec makes it a bit useless i think, cause there would be very little incentive for high-sec dwellers to want to defend it.

They could do it so the system effectively turns into null-sec for the duration of the invasion and as long as the system isn't liberated ( so up to a month ).

The Sleepers would be roaming around everywhere in the systems, able to kill anyone at any time, so teamwork becomes a must.
Also allow bombers and bubbles in there, seeing as it's null at that moment ( just not the usual sov claiming and stuff related to null).
No Titans or super-caps allowed.

And yes, the loot is something that needs to be looked at, obviously we don't want wormholers to lose out on this.

It could introduce wormhole and null dynamics to people unfamiliar with it.
It would be interesting to me, to see what will happen if one of the systems right in the middle of a trade route was invaded.

You should.. probably.. reconsider the notion of bubbles being allowed in places that are temporarily null. They would persist even after the sec status was restored to something that does not allow bubbles. That would be what we in Features & Ideas call "horribly broken".

I agree with the notion that letting the incursion last longer than absolutely necessary should have consequences, though. Sansha incursions should be looked at with this in mind as well. Such that the longer you let the incursion exist, the harder it is to clear (up to a point) and after a while gatecamps start happening and just get bigger and bigger until even a battleship is in trouble and a small fleet is required to clear them out. Under such a mechanic, the incursions should also not despawn until the mothership is cleared.

One more thing I've been meaning to address, although it's of little importance, is that I doubt something as advanced as Sleeper drones would need to resort to a "rudimentary" FTL drive. I'm sure with the remarkable technology they have control over (technology that our T3 ships represent only a very primitive, barbaric understanding of) that they could easily create and use Jump Drives that are capable of spanning double- and triple-digit distances (measured in LY) without needing a cyno or beacon on the other side.

Also, as much as I want to say "Oh my god CCP, can we have a C6-level Sleeper Incursion in Jita? Please please please?" I'm not sure I want to put on my fullerite-and-technetium-alloy wading boots and traverse the boiling oily river of tears that would result.