Missions & Complexes

I anyone else finding the null sec mini game VERY hard? I have lost more cans than I have opened. The low sec mini game does not even compare.

I haven't lost a single container yesterday. It's way too easy actualy and that's one of the reasons why everybody farms the sites now and the markets crash.

I don't want CCP to just put even more firewalls, suppressors in there tho to "fix" it because it's so random, will feel completely unfair then. Just their strenght and coherence needs to be upped and players given the possibility to get around that by investing 1-2 months into new skills for this purpose.

I must have really hit a string of bad luck then. I got a relic site - Serpentis Crystal Something - and it was firewall, virus node (or whatever) then restoration node one after the other. found myself with like 10% coherence, no wrenches and SOL. Happened at least 5 times to me.

will keep pluggin away hoping for easier times

So does this mean you pretty much need to use a covert ops setup these days? So the quintessential all in one ninja Ishtar will suck without any bonuses for hacking?

Yea im now of the opinion it is all random and luck is the name of the game. I was being real careful and listening to the sounds before hitting a button and all that ****. The past 3 sites I have been moving fast clicking on a random path. ive opened 3 containers and got loot, and lost one. A much better ratio than when I was trying to "figure out" how to crack the code.

Cov ops or T3 cruisers are the best ships to use for the new data/relic sites if you want the best chance of actually opening the cans. "all in one" ships don't offer any advantage like they used to.



The difficulty of the sites isn't helped at all by some of the bugs that managed to slip through into the release build like this one. http://i.imgur.com/3TCVLXv.png?1

This happens when the minigame freezes when you try to click on a node and won't do anything until you select a second node as well. In the picture I was able to jump over a node that otherwise would have stopped my progression.

Already submitted a bug report and hope we see a fix soon.

Exactly this. You won't go anywhere with an unbonused ship unlike T1 scanning frig/Cov-Ops or T3 with subsystem. Even the better sites in low-sec are kinda hard without such a ship and you'll lose a lot of cans. Better agility and speed of frig sized ships helps to catch the lewt vomit as well.
I wonder how long it takes until most of the now excited "explorers" will turn their back on profession sites. The hacking minigame is a horrible clickfest and beyond every brain activity. I 'can't imagine people doing this for weeks or even months in a row as main playstyle.

And I thought that my PC was doing something wrong. I got mini-game screen freezes too : ).

@Isthar pilot: You can do those sites as well, but of course if you get more things in your way, you will probably fail. But this game is all about luck, so it might be that you'll open sites with just one click on an empty field (as I've said somewhere, I had few mini-games now where the core was on the first field I've clicked on).

I'll second that. Had 90M+ estimated loot. Total retail value....just over 40M.

2 points are dragging the prices down :

-They should bring back the rats that were guarding the radar and magnetic sites. No defence makes them so easy to run ...
and allows you to explore in cov ops which makes you way more difficult to catch in null. So it takes off the risks of null exploation. And as everybody knows risks is expensive.

-On all of the sites i have run since te patch i have never found and empty container. Before the patc you could run on 2-3 empty containers per site. It seems to me that they increased the loot table due to the minigame and cans spreading. But wen you do it well you almost always get all te loot from te containes so in te end we get more than before.
This is not a problem by the way as lots of objecs of small value equals few objects of high value .

So the main problem i think is the rats removal.