Missions & Complexes

Weird that no one has commented this topic before :)! If you don't mind, I'll insert my thoughts about the new expansion.

TL;TR

- Scanning is made way too easy.

- Relic/data sites are way too easy and bring too much income.

- There's new place to PvP.

Play style

I'm PvE player who enjoys the exploration the most and I don't tend to PvP unless it's necessary. The new expansion has given PvP players new opportunities: hunt down the new-born explorers and kill them with their juicy loot inside. If I wanted to kill people, I could've killed 11 people so far. So, whoever has whined that it's pretty hard to kill a missioner because of NPC switching aggression towards the aggressor, it's your chance to hunt the explorers down and enjoy 'juicy' loot.

Probing / Scanning

I don't like the new system - it's way too easy. I don't like where CCP is going with EvE ... they're oversimplifying everything what they can. I have problems with all ships having the same bonuses as well - I guess, it's just about time when there will be just one ship in the game, because otherwise the game is too hard -_-.

If something, I liked the idea of being good in scanning. I could've probed the site faster than a player who has been scanning site before me. Now, everyone knows where the signals are and it represents no effort what-so-ever. Since CCP is oversimplifying everything, they could as well add the 'gray' color on the signatures which are outside of the probe range so pilots don't have to close\reset the scanner panel ; ).

DSP were removed! What is the reason? I didn't see any reason behind it, but we can guess it's because people could 'cherry-pick' sites they want to run. Well, tough news for you if that was the reason because DSP guide is back (well, in a changed format of course; you can read it here:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3168634#post3168634).

Hacking

I've been hacking for around six hours, and I have to say it's pretty random. Clicking your way towards the core is fun at start, but it tends to be 'finger'-breaking after a longer session (~1 and a half hours). It reminds me on Diablo I: "Click, click, click ..." ... *off to go and buy a new mouse*.

The game is something different and I've enjoyed my time playing those mini-games, but it's way too easy to get good loot from the game (don't bash me now, but I'm sure CCP is checking the amount of items which are dropping and I think the nerf will be incoming - I just hope that this time they'll say it in public before they break the % that bad, that not a single explorers gets anything).

Random. That's how this game should be explained to anyone. First of all I want to say that I've been opening cans only in NULL-sec. Some cans had core on my second click within the game (funny, right?). Other cans had tons and tons of restoration nodes combined with numerous firewalls and other bad counterparts against player.

Payout

It's more than extreme. Either I was really lucky, or it's just what people can get. I still didn't get any BPC for control tower, but I've gotten around 2.2 B ISK worth of loot within six hours of playing. The biggest income came from the capacitor console (relic site). This morning, I've been playing for ~30 minutes and I got 33 capacitor consoles from a single relic site. The second item from which I got the income is power circuit and then R&I items (purple disks).

And I don't think I'm the only guy who has been getting the items. If you check the market, you'll see the drastic drop on T2 salvage prices (same goes for R&I items).

How does it work and what do you need to have in order to get the maximum out of the sites?

How to get in NULL-sec

- Check the map for activity if you will move through pipe (I use the in-game map, but you can use whatever you want).
OR
- Find a wormhole which leads into the NULL-sec.

Covert-ops is required

{ Cheetah, Buzzard, Helios, Anathema }
OR
{ Loki, Tengu, Proteus, Legion } -- option if you have money and you would maybe like the PvP with innocent explorers. Fit the interdiction nullifier ...

These are my thoughts ... I really think you should take a covert-ops since it gives you nice bonuses, and you can travel cloaked. In case you manage to get in bubble, you can always gate-crash if situation requires the action. Just be calm if you land in the bubble. Zoom to your ship, and look what's around you. Sometimes, the better option will be to go outside of the bubble if it was not placed correctly.

Required fit items

HIGH:

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Probe Launcher II (you can use sister core scanner probe launcher, but it's not required).

MID:

Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Cargo Scanner (take whatever you want - it does not matter).
Microwarpdrive 1MN (take what you can fit. Don't take an afterburner).

If you have extra mid-slots, you could consider modules for the probes:

Scan Acquisition Array I (Reduces the scan time of scan probes.)
Scan Pinpointing Array I (Reduces the scan deviation when scanning with scan probes.)
Scan Rangefinding Array I (Increases the scan strength when scanning with scan probes.).

LOW: if you will need some power-grid, you can use items like Micro Auxiliary Power Core I.
I recommend placing one of those (choose what you think is required for you):

Inertia Stabilizers II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II

RIGS:

If you want stronger virus, take the following:

Small Emission Scope Sharpener (analyzer).
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank (hacking).

They did not change the description of an item, but I guess they still apply.

If you want stronger probe strength, take the following:

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade (probe scan strength).

Ok so here it is for me,

Scanning down is a little quicker, but the site rarity is still enough for the data sites. SO you can spend a while just getting one on scan when your going from system to system. Then you get to the data site and you are presented with a random click through game reminiscent of mine sweeper. In the hard sites it is stupidly hard and random if you get things to help hack or accidentally click on the bad stuff. So it is pretty much pot luck which gets you through the site and not much player skill. Once you have gotten through the pot luck game of minesweeper, the items then fling out randomly and despawn. That is the icing on the crap cake for me. The fact they despawn.

To reiterate;

1. Data Sites are rare(ish) enough anyway and random enough to find.
2. The mini game is a random thing to get through, especially at the harder levels.
3. The Items despawn once you have gotten through the act of randomly finding a site and then randomly hacking it.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a mini game, but one which has actual skill to use instead of pot luck.

regards

Shameful

I'm quite sure what I'm talking about because I got a lot of those Capacitor Consoles.

Here, an image of today's capacitors loot on the market:

abstract-vision.com/permanent/todayscapacitors.png

There's a lot more, but I didn't copy the whole orders window. So yeah, this image will stay there probably for a while, until I finally get my site up and running ...

I'm not the one who's getting them only. The price for those went from the 22 down to 17. A lot of modules are being seeded on the market, and I'm just looking what to do now ;). It still pays off to sell them, but I'm just wondering what's the border for people to start producing their own T2 modules.

EDIT: When I've said that I got something, I really mean it : ). I'm not trying to brag or anything else, I'm just trying to give out an information. I can see a lot of Control towers as well ...

If you check the star map, you will see systems having at least one player inside. Explorers are everywhere now. Sites re-spawn every 15 minutes (? I think that was/is the timer). Combine that all together, and you'll get two results: a) market crash or b) CCP nerf or c)?

Are you doing your sites in NULL-sec? Because I am.

But in EvE, everything is random.

Missions, loot, ...

% sucks.

EDIT: Long story short. It was warm, and I woke up at 3 AM. Logged in my account. Saw three signatures in the system. Two data sites and one relic site. Decided to do relic first. Simple as that (because my experience told me that in relic sites you can get tons of ISK unlike in the data sites).

Relic site gave me the consoles. Data sites have given me decryptors. When I saw I have a billion estimate in the cargo, I've just decided to move out of NULL-sec and sell the stuff as fast as possible before prices fall even more. I'll probably return to NULL sec just to see if I'll get lucky enough to get the Faction Starbase Structure blueprint copy. I'm not playing this game for ISK efficiency, hence I'll probably return to few level IV missions and enjoy the EvE content, as broken as it is :x.

It depends in which space you are. The same t2 salvage doesn't drop everywhere.

IM just starting out, but so far ive found the null sec sights to mbe harder than low sec, and have a better payout

Are there any skills that can be trained to increase virus strength? I saw the post above about rigs for relic and data analyzer. Anything else that will make this stronger. Mine is about half the bar right now with skills at 3 (hacking) and 4 (archaeology)

Nope. Those are the all skills you need. Archeology and Hacking and the modules which I've mentioned above.

Profession sites are more than broken. No clue who has designed such a system, but he obviously wanted to do an experiment on the EvE community. Sure, they have introduced the capital rigs, but it's not good enough of a reason. I just got 58 Capacitor Consoles and Capital Trimark Armor Pump II Blueprint Copy. And this is hillarious.

No risk, but ISK.

Just look at the market for a bit : D - all these T2 salvage modules are coming from the exploration sites (at least, I think that majority is being dropped from there).

Both of you stop making sense !!!

I haven't been in LOW-sec, but could it be that a lot of people are coming out to do DED sites as well?

Today in my, almost, two hour session I've found 13 combat sites. Not sure if they've moved them out in NULL or what, but the numbers on combat sites in NULL are amazing. I'm in Blood Raider region and that's not attractive for few people out there, and that could be the reason why no one is doing the sites.