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I want CCP to abandon DUST
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#81 - 2013-06-08 17:11:13 UTC
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


i second that with ps2 going to ps4 then dust should also go to computer.

that and port dust to the occular rift.

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Lilliana Stelles
#82 - 2013-06-08 17:24:27 UTC
"Incarna/dust/world of darkness/etc is killing eve"

It's all the same argument. Eve as it is won't last forever, CCP needs to diversify and stay focused on these little side projects if they don't want to slowly die along with an aging fanbase.

Not a forum alt. 
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#83 - 2013-06-08 18:06:31 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


i second that with ps2 going to ps4 then dust should also go to computer.

The one thing everyone glosses over from the Planetside 2 going to PS4 reveal is that PS2 on the console will not interact with PS2 on the computer's servers. They'll be, for all intensive purposes, different games.

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Tarpedo
Incursionista
#84 - 2013-06-08 18:09:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarpedo
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


If you are not all over Planetside 2 at the moment - most likely you won't be all over Dust after PC release.

(shooters become very boring very fast)

P.S. Stupid posts like this one killed WiS development. Now I'm waiting for Star Citizen.
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2013-06-08 18:09:59 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
"Incarna/dust/world of darkness/etc is killing eve"

It's all the same argument. Eve as it is won't last forever, CCP needs to diversify and stay focused on these little side projects if they don't want to slowly die along with an aging fanbase.


Aging fanbase? Oh yes we are all in retirement hooked up to life support. Thanks for the laugh.

DUST is fine for what it is. I would have preferred something for mobile to play while on the go. Oh well.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#86 - 2013-06-08 18:12:14 UTC
Lykouleon wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


i second that with ps2 going to ps4 then dust should also go to computer.

The one thing everyone glosses over from the Planetside 2 going to PS4 reveal is that PS2 on the console will not interact with PS2 on the computer's servers. They'll be, for all intensive purposes, different games.


i did not know that...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2013-06-08 18:17:28 UTC
Tarpedo wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


If you are not all over Planetside 2 at the moment - most likely you won't be all over Dust after PC release.

(shooters become very boring very fast)


I quite like shooters, personally. Plus there are quite a few older multiplayer shooters that are still popular on PC. But what stopped me getting into Planetside 2 was, apart from the system requirements, the fact that it appeared you had quite limited overall impact on the game. Basically, it' seemed to be just about shooting people in the face - which is admirable, but not enough on it's own to support long-term enthusiasm for it. Conversely, what makes me more interested in DUST is that you actually can have an effect on the wider universe.
Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
#88 - 2013-06-08 18:18:17 UTC
Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:
I love EVE, I think most of all for it's sandbox. Also because of the space genre. They fit perfectly and there's so much to do with this, my imagination is constantly exploding from it as I know other people's are as having spoken to them over the years. That being said the DUST issue brings up an interesting problem. Even though I love EVE and want CCP to do well with it, everything I know tells me DUST is a failure.

So is it more morally right to support EVE and DUST until it bleeds EVE dry and dies, or to call it out as it is now and ask CCP to put an end to it?

What is your opinion on DUST?


I like the concept, in the big picture having a space ship game and a planet based shooter interact is cool.

I think PS3 was a fatal error, console in general, the console culture is not to play the same game long term.

They should have started PC, no heavy vendor deals, then branched out later.

At a minimum they were not ready with enough interaction and could have easily waited and targeted PS4, more features, new platform.

Now, if it drops below the profit line, if it ever made it there, I say kill it.
Lykouleon
Noble Sentiments
Second Empire.
#89 - 2013-06-08 20:18:47 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
Lykouleon wrote:
MeBiatch wrote:
Barakkus wrote:
I don't want them to abandon it, I want them to port it to PC so I can play it. I would probably be all over that.


i second that with ps2 going to ps4 then dust should also go to computer.

The one thing everyone glosses over from the Planetside 2 going to PS4 reveal is that PS2 on the console will not interact with PS2 on the computer's servers. They'll be, for all intensive purposes, different games.


i did not know that...

Its mostly for the same reasons you'll likely never see DUST on the PC.

It's like there's a valid, thought-out reason behind it or something...

Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#90 - 2013-06-08 21:20:17 UTC
Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:
I love EVE, I think most of all for it's sandbox. Also because of the space genre. They fit perfectly and there's so much to do with this, my imagination is constantly exploding from it as I know other people's are as having spoken to them over the years. That being said the DUST issue brings up an interesting problem. Even though I love EVE and want CCP to do well with it, everything I know tells me DUST is a failure.

So is it more morally right to support EVE and DUST until it bleeds EVE dry and dies, or to call it out as it is now and ask CCP to put an end to it?

What is your opinion on DUST?


it should have been included in the existing client, so if people want to go to the planet and shoot stuff they can go there, doing a stand alone fps with the competition out there seems to be hard

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Swidgen
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#91 - 2013-06-08 21:49:49 UTC
Noooo Noooooo NOOOOOOOOO wrote:
Just a reminder that this is your money going to a console game you probably don't even play.

That's not true. Once you pay your monthly subscription fee the money isn't yours anymore. It's CCP's. At that point they are free to do whatever they want with it, whether that's spending it on fancy cars, giving it to their investors, reinvesting it into EVE, eating it for lunch, developing other projects (like dust), or rolling it up into gerbil access tunnels just for fun.

If your point of view was correct the EULA would look very different than it does. Nowhere does CCP say they promise to take your EVE subscription money and only use it for EVE development. In conclusion, once you pay your money to CCP they owe you ONLY a month of game time on the EVE servers. That's it. You have no say or input into their decision on what to do with that money.
Sri Nova
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#92 - 2013-06-08 21:59:06 UTC
CCP heard those that decried dusts development loud and clear.

Yet that developed it any way , they figured they had a pretty good idea and for some reason they needed the console experience.

What they have done is done . Tranquillity is now better for it . ( more robust game engine with extended capabilities rather they are used or not)

All we can do is hope that some how it ends up benefiting us all, and in the end makes eve a more awesome product .