EVE General Discussion

It takes a long time to get banned from a region through fw. Also implant loss is exceedingly rare. All my implant losses in few were because of lag or stupidity, and that's only like 2 poddings in 3 years of living in lowsec. Either way, its the sort of thing you can back out of at any time. Set your own schedule, play how you want. It opens doors, not closes them.

Lol now where were YOU when I was corp hunting.

This tbh. I only found the guys I'm currently flying with after time spent flying in wormholes. Spent a whole month living by myself in a C2 in only a Typhoon, it was great. Since I couldn't find the right guys to fly with (until now), I decided to forge my own path, and ended up with guys with similar interests. I once scared a newb spitless by er...sneaking up to him and bumping him. I was in an uncloaked drake from 50 km away. Admittedly, I had disguised myself by naming my ship after a planet in system.
I then provided useful links to wormhole exploration and dscan/overview stuff to show what he did wrong. Since he took it well, I invited him to explore whenever he wanted another guy to watch his back.
I would have done the same to that Tornado I caught mining in that C2 I lived in, but...he never gave me the chance

I have been on the other end of the barrel as well, when I was a newb. Can flipping. Oh, joy. But the guys were polite and showed me what I had done wrong. It's something we've all gone through...it's a sort of initiation.

I will agree that the SP req is ridiculous for a certain number of corps out there, but they usually do that because they're looking for dedicated players and the easiest way to tell is by the SP amount (at least on the surface). Some, like my corp, want to ensure that you can participate in the fun stuff-- that's why they require you to be able to fly at least a t3 for example (exceptions exist because we sometimes find people we like and are sure will benefit our fun).

I'd like to do fun stuff with newbies, but sometimes that simply can't happen. This is changing, however, like with the changes in scanning and probes. Just today I got to spend time ninja mining with a friend. I have 800k sp on him (and I was playing my alt), but we could still engage in ninja mining together in wormholes. All because CCP changed the system and the skills, woohoo! (I could have done the same with Amitious, my main, but he is stuck deep in wh space atm)

On another note...
Sometimes people will tell you not to undock and engage because the corp can't take the losses in a lengthy or committed engagement. Other times (and this might be more applicable in your case) it may be because the war they're fighting is an unwilling war and more losses encourages the other side to continually wardec you, preventing you from access to hisec trade hubs. TRECI (my corp) has been involved in that sort of thing before. As much as we want to pew, our pew would be much less fun if we had no way to replace our ships!

I'd highly encourage you to check out Eve University. Once you're finished with them, the smart corps will want you. TRECI has taken UNI grads (I think about 70% of our number is UNI grads actually), and we teach classes on wormhole dwelling and such as well. I think we've even done field trips for curious newbies



And this. Truth.

Red VS Blue sounds perfect for you. Pure pvp day in and day out. No politics, just pew pew. They don't teach you how to pvp, but you learn the ropes very quick and are sure to find someone who wouldn't mind taking some time off and helping you out. No need to worry about podding in RvB, as it is not allowed. They run fleets almost all day and a hero rifter is always welcome. Just keep your head held high, your hand on your F1 key, and make sh!t go boom.

Edit: they also have a "noob fleet" program in which they gather as many newbros as possible and hold special little events for them with awesome rewards (faction frigates, ship packages, etc...)

Seriously who were these guys? I need names. They need a good hard dickslapping.

OP... hop into a jump clone and blitz into low-sec. Yes... you'll train slower (like... 10, 15% slower) but it's better than being afraid and you'll gain good experience from it. And with that experience you gain you'll learn how to get your pod out when you lose your ships... and then you can go back to using your implants again full time.

I personally fly around low-sec with a billion ISK implant set in my head. Haven't lost it in about a year.


As for skillpoint restrictions when apply for corps... ignore it. They're there to scare off the general rabble. If you talk to a recruiter, diplomat, director, CEO, etc. and show that you have a good working foundation of EVE's mechanics and a good mentality... you'll be accepted without much fuss.

Those that DO turn you away based on skillpoint restrictions are corps you didn't want to join anyways.


As for the FC that kicked you away from a fleet-op because you couldn't fly a battleship... he was an idiot. Every ship counts... even a newbie's frigate. Hell... you could have been more useful than those battleships when sitting on gates. You can catch the odd cruiser or destroyer that passes by while they can't.

Red VS Blue, sounds like thats the place you want to be, they are in a constant state of war, fly cheap ships and take most anyone willing to undock for a fight. They don't pod each other as a general rule.

Good Luck

First of all, welcome to EvE.
That Universe needs new players like you i think, people who are willing to go out there, learn, ask the right questions, and aren't afraid to loose a few ships to have fun. So don't you dare to give up yet, there is still hope. Forget about the big 0.0 Alliances for the moment, what you need is a quick fix of fun, and a demonstration of the possibility EvE holds for a promising young Pilot like you.

So, several people already suggested FW and RvB to you, and i really think that's just the right thing for you to do right now.
That doesn't even say you have to stop watching for a corp that recruits, you can for example drop out of RvB whenever you feel like. And until then you don't sit on a station, watch the channels and be bored, you're out there, flying your rifter with and against others, hunt the alone or in groups, watch your inexpensive little frigs go up in flames again and again, but you'll have fun.

Really, in my opinion there is no downside for you in going out there and try it.

This ----^ . You don't owe them anything. They suck and have no business outside of highsec. Post their name here so that others may avoid the waste of time that you experienced.

As for options that might work for new players with your kind of attitude; CVA isn't hard to infiltrate, ere I mean join. In game CVA-diplo chat channel. Brave newbies is a great outfit for new guys. Test and Goons have awesome intro programs but you have to join through their oog forums, Reddit, and Something awful respectively. Eve university is also excellent, they have a long interview process but really its worth it.

You have fallen prey to carebears, fear not, it is easily remedied. And you will feel much better after having ganked a few dozen of them.

Well you have shittalking at level 5 I see so you'll do ok.