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Jita Population Limit

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Anniken Geirsdottir
Red Claw Rising
#21 - 2013-06-08 11:52:33 UTC
Easy way to deterr local spam/scam-bots:

100k Fibonacci jita local cspa charge.

First message in jita local per day is free.
2nd: 100k
3rd: 100k
4th: 200k
5th: 300k
6th: 500k
7th: 800k
8th: 1.3mil
...

Also not per char or account, but per person (identified by cc or other means.)
Also, as need arises, like on saturdays or sundays, factor 10 or 100 could be implemented.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#22 - 2013-06-08 12:20:56 UTC
I really don't get it. I never have a problem getting into Jita.

By the looks of the gates though, the AFK crowd was not getting in though.
Rengerel en Distel
#23 - 2013-06-08 13:07:23 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I really don't get it. I never have a problem getting into Jita.

By the looks of the gates though, the AFK crowd was not getting in though.


Perhaps you're just lucky, or don't even try to get in at a time that coincides with Jita Max? They could just remove local, and half the population would go somewhere else.


With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
#24 - 2013-06-08 13:15:18 UTC
Smoking Blunts wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Nah. It's a good mix of performance and accessibility as it is.
This.

If we up the limit then Time Dilation starts to kick in more aggressively than it does now. It will with the current limit drop to 80% approx. every 15 minutes on average during peak hour.



should remove any cap and let it drop to 10% TiDI. people in 0.0 have to deal with it when a fleet undocks. market whores should be dealing with it when 3000 are moving crap about


This is the best solution imo. It would force people to spread out to other systems to avoid the tidi on their market orders. Maybe it would even make them open their buy orders to somewhere other than just the jita 4-4 station so I could sell in Perimeter or New Caldari for the same price instead of trying to get into jita =P
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#25 - 2013-06-08 13:17:57 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I really don't get it. I never have a problem getting into Jita.

By the looks of the gates though, the AFK crowd was not getting in though.

Perhaps you're just lucky, or don't even try to get in at a time that coincides with Jita Max? They could just remove local, and half the population would go somewhere else.

More likely, he didn't just fly up to the gate and clicked “Jump”, but rather employed a more aggressive strategy.

Speaking of which, I'm trying to get a freighter out of Jita, but there are too many open slots so I can just log in. Could people please fill the place up so I can have my ship and precious cargo moved to a better system? P
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#26 - 2013-06-08 13:25:39 UTC
What about removing Jita local, so that people.. I mean, BOTS, stop using slots just to spam ?

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Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#27 - 2013-06-08 13:30:21 UTC
Altrue wrote:
What about removing Jita local, so that people.. I mean, BOTS, stop using slots just to spam ?


That would make too much sense.

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Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-06-08 13:33:20 UTC
One tactic I use (although it doesn't help so much with initially getting into Jita) is to fly my items into 4-4, drop them, immediately leave Jita and manipulate/sell/etc remotely from that point. Less lag dealt with overall that way.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#29 - 2013-06-08 13:57:29 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Nah. It's a good mix of performance and accessibility as it is.
This.

If we up the limit then Time Dilation starts to kick in more aggressively than it does now. It will with the current limit drop to 80% approx. every 15 minutes on average during peak hour.


Maybe you should do something about spam bots rather than punish people actually trying to play the game. Question
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#30 - 2013-06-08 14:02:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tollen Gallen
Altrue wrote:
What about removing Jita local, so that people.. I mean, BOTS, stop using slots just to spam ?


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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#31 - 2013-06-08 14:11:39 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
I really don't get it. I never have a problem getting into Jita.

By the looks of the gates though, the AFK crowd was not getting in though.


Perhaps you're just lucky, or don't even try to get in at a time that coincides with Jita Max? They could just remove local, and half the population would go somewhere else.

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Dave Stark
#32 - 2013-06-08 14:13:11 UTC
Zak Breen wrote:
Altrue wrote:
What about removing Jita local, so that people.. I mean, BOTS, stop using slots just to spam ?


That would make too much sense.


i'd love to see how many people stop logging in to jita alts if local chat vanishes.
Obunagawe
#33 - 2013-06-08 14:14:43 UTC
Jita is now inaccessible from 2 hours after downtime, until past midnight.

It takes me over 50 tries to log a character into Jita during these times.

It's stupid that the server is capped to benefit a minority of people who actually want to do things that aren't affected by TIDI in Jita.
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Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-06-08 14:26:48 UTC
Confirming that Jita is the only place to buy stuff in this game.

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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#35 - 2013-06-08 14:58:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tollen Gallen
Dave Stark wrote:
Zak Breen wrote:
Altrue wrote:
What about removing Jita local, so that people.. I mean, BOTS, stop using slots just to spam ?


That would make too much sense.


i'd love to see how many people stop logging in to jita alts if local chat vanishes.



Given that there seems to be atleast 2000 in local at any given time, i'd guess 100+.

Hmm... On one hand that seems high, but on the other it does'nt seem high enough...... I try not to go there.

But as its been said in countless other threads, We as the playerbase created it.


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pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2013-06-08 15:19:56 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:

If we up the limit then Time Dilation starts to kick in more aggressively than it does now. It will with the current limit drop to 80% approx. every 15 minutes on average during peak hour.


I think a major concern is that the Jita limit before cap or tidi apparently went _down_ with Odyssey's release. Why was this? And will it also affect the number at which fleet fights are tidi'd? Performance should get better, not worse, in a big release... we all hope!

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Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2013-06-08 15:42:21 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Delen Ormand wrote:
I can't find the link now, but apparently ships that are on autopilot have priority in the queue.

Oh, and the higher the value of your cargo the better, too..


Well, the value of the cargo seems not what gets you in, but autopilot does get you in faster, probably due to less spamming.


No, the cargo value definitely has an effect.

We can actually prove it for everyone quite easily. If you load up an industrial with, say, 20 PLEXes and autopilot it to Jita at peak time, I'll autopilot an empty battleship and we'll see who gets in first. I have a friend who says he can be there to provide independant verification also.
Wes Vyvorant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-06-08 15:50:15 UTC

Ffs ccp just fix jita already. I am not paying to sit at a gate spamming buttons. And While your at it remove local chat cause its unusable anyway.
Delen Ormand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-06-08 15:52:50 UTC
Wes Vyvorant wrote:

Ffs ccp just fix jita already. I am not paying to sit at a gate spamming buttons.


I'm guessing you actually are, or you wouldn't have posted this :)
Wes Vyvorant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-06-08 15:57:15 UTC
Delen Ormand wrote:
Wes Vyvorant wrote:

Ffs ccp just fix jita already. I am not paying to sit at a gate spamming buttons.


I'm guessing you actually are, or you wouldn't have posted this :)


No i gave up, logged off and posted this sitting at the bbq with a beer.