Ships & Modules

I hear about it every time, since my returning in EVE, in the late 2010. I hear about it here and there, but nothing was specified and backed by facts. So, what backs these rumors? Is it only wishful thinking or we have something more solid about it from CCP?

Thanks in advance for any new info about it.

you kinda missed the argument then.


I'm not gonna post it again, since it's much more complex than it looks. try eve-search on the old forums for the relevant threads.

As soon as this hybrid buff comes out, you morons are gonna be complaining about how OP they are.

1. No one flies Gallente; no one catches Minmatar ships with Gallente ships BECAUSE no one flies Gallente.
2. Hybrid buff.
3. People start flying Gallente.
4. "Wah wah wah, I can't kite with Minmatar ships any more; CCP what did you do???"

Of course, this doesn't apply to your ***** "everybody wins" blob pvp.

Since Blaster dont get the same falloff bonus as projectiles people are getting mad and forcing ccp to take actions! Some were the player base has forgotten how to fly these top dmg drones armor plated bastards..

I for one hope that nothing happens at all!

gank torp raven does more damage than a gank b-thron too, and at higher ranges.


granted it's somewhat balanced by the fact that it can only do that damage to a perfect still and very fat target, but yeah.

Learn to use eft properly:
Use maxed skills for both, as your skills obviously skew the results:
Max skills, faction ammo, 2 damage mods, no drones (remember, they have the same drone bays):
Mega: 832 DPS @ 4.5+13
Geddon: 760 @ 15+10
Point at which the mega does only 760 DPS because of falloff: 8km

But wait, there's still null!
Mega with null: 663 DPS @ 11+16
Point at which a mega ODs a geddon using null vs multifreq: 24km (doing 350 DPS each)

And to add insult to injury, the geddon has the option of instantly switching to scorch, allowing it to do 606 DPS @ 45+10, which ODs the mega at all ranges past 17km.

Basically with null you will never OD a geddon, ever. With faction ammo you lose out at anything past 8km (which is still well within web range, as I've mentioned before). Not only that, but even in optimal of the blasters the difference is a pathetic ~9.4% extra DPS, and that's WITHOUT drones (with drones it's about 6.6% extra DPS)

I agree that hybrids need a buff (though I'd go with an optimal/falloll increase for blasters rather than a pure damage increase), but I feel that they shoudl rather be compared with projectiles, as pulses are a mid-range weapon, while blasters and autocanons are close-range.

^ Also, lets not forget that blasters can only do kinetic and thermal damage. I think that factors into the balance issue a lot...

I've said this before:

FIX THE SHIPS NOT THE GUNS

Hybrids work fine, but the game was changed to make them ineffective:

Mass and Agility
Webifiers
Scramblers

These changes meant:

cannot get into range
cannot track fast enough
cannot dictate range

Ship bonuses required:

Web strength (like vindicator has)
MWD boost percentile
Tracking bonuses
Agility/Mass bonuses

The problem with altering the guns is that any ship can fit hybrids so long as they have the PG+CPU+skills to do so - if the position was reversed, how do you think Minimatar pilots would feel if you could fit their recently-boosted guns on your Gallente hull? Or Amarr pilots?

So, a boost is needed for Caldari and Gallente ships That specialise in hybrid weapons, and the bonuses they receive should only be in accordance with the ship that is intended to use them - nothing else.

I promise you this: If you boost the guns, within 30 minutes someone will create an EFT fit for a tempest or w/e that will undermine everything you've been petitioning for.

AK

Fix is planed for mid next year.

Source

On the other hand since I have never seen a real understanding of the issues from CCP, the CSM and most of the player base chances are very low it actually will archive anything meaningful.