EVE General Discussion

So you're mad that your bacon is not instant anymore? Or are you mad that they changed the way you do things?

CCP have added content, quite a lot of it in fact, but judging by your post you seem somewhat aggrieved by the fact that you cannot log in, set your ship and afk whatever.

Why not go after roids? Diversify my man! Try something different.

If you cringe every time they do an expansion, why are you here? Clearly it doesn't sound like you enjoy the game.

Personally, I don't blame CCP for the concept, ice mining did need a change (even the ice miners could agree on that).

How it was executed, while meanwhile accepting IsBox, is a problem. This change hurts the players who actually play the game, not just bots.

Ice mining is also mining not something new players engage in (takes time to skill for it), and the idea that it's even in high sec due to it is puzzling (want players in low/null, the stuff goes into low/null deal). High sec as CCP thinks of it is a newbie land, and should support those activities -- while keeping the higher SP players out of the zone (so newbies can actually have sites to learn such activities, not have them disappear, because some 100mil SP toon can swallow it faster for easy ISK).

The activity of mining itself could be changed to a mini-game that can't be botted (much like EQII's tradeskill minigame) is an alternative, as anyone actively doing these mundane chores aren't punished, but bots are. Can return back to big ice fields again even.

no ice for u, more ice for me

really because the system actually helps people who play the game.

protip try being social.

Yeah it's really enjoyable to sit around for hours waiting for a spawn then get maybe 30 minutes to mine until the next round of 3 or 4 hours for the next spawn. It's pretty much 30 or 40 people jump on an ice spawn and clear it within half an hour in my home system. Seriously, eve has become more and more of spending hours doing nothing to get a few minutes of doing something then rinse/repeat for the last year or two.

@ Barakkus

I have to respectfully disagree with that.

EvE seems to be targeting more "active" players. Not those that afk everything and farm. The more active you are, the more content seems to be available and rewarding for you.

Even if you have a few hours, you can run plexes or piracy, level 4s or 5s. There is a lot of active content. CCP seems to be pushing hard to get away from people that afk. How many people that actually play and participate actively have you seen whine? I count very few.

All i read about are miners that used to afk that cannot do it now and are angry. If this helps against botting and rewards players that actually play, then i'm all for it.

No, I completely disagree. I've pretty much just decided this is skill training online for me at this point because I got tired of sitting around for 5 hours, jumping systems looking for fights with friends to get maybe 1 or 2 good fights that last like 1-2 minutes. There's no fun in pvp, I don't like blob warfare, and I don't want to do FW b/c I like being able to travel through all the empires without being shot. I have no interest in null...and I have no interest in living in LS exclusively, it's a wasteland anyways. Either you run into a giant blob, or everyone runs if they don't severely outnumber you anymore. Most of the changes CCP has made over the last year and a half have really killed it for the casual player and small gang pvp. This is even more of a **** you to the casual player who can't devote their entire life to playing EVE. At least I could afford to fuel a tower with passively mining when I needed to, hell I didn't even make any money off it...(or my tower)...

Warp to another system...

It's more like...

Have you considered, I dunno...
...trying to do something else?

I mean, with so much things to do in Eve, and ppl complain about quitting because they cannot achieve anything full/semi-afk now? Seriously, I don't think the market is going to crash with all afk miners gone right? Eve's a healthier game ever without afk players who ruin the market and effort of the active playing players.

Wow, guy, negative much?
Seems like you are saying that you only played EVE to mine ice/make isk. On that note, have you looked at playing the markets? I hear you can make lots of isk with little time investment, if you know what you're doing.

Alternatively, I guess you could quit. vOv