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What a game!

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Echo Echoplex
#1 - 2013-06-07 15:14:15 UTC
I just subbed a couple of days ago (hi everyone) after a 2 wk. trial but only a few hours of that used, so I have zero idea what I'm doing. Meanwhile I've been reading, reading, reading to try and lessen the learning curve, and have seen so many Disillusioned-I-Quit posts from people who've seemingly played quite awhile and I just don't get it.

I can see quitting for various reasons: time management problems, frustration with the learning curve/yourself and your own inabilities, eventual boredom, lack of money, and yes, even personal conflict with the politics of the game, but what I don't understand is quitting because the game proved itself to be what it was when you signed on. In a game that's remarkably complex it's the one aspect that seems so simple and transparent.

I have no idea what I want to do or be yet and I won't be surprised if I rage or pittykitty when I get scammed, betrayed, podded repeatedly, etc. but I see this game essentially as an rpg for every person who plays it. Even if you spend your time trading out of game, you're playing that role. You can play the role of a benevolent and helpful pilot who aspires to elevate and educate, you can play the role of the biggest as*hat who ever walked the face of the earth, you can play it as anything in between, or even both simultaneously. It's the wild wild west and the civil war and a a social experiment and a sandbox and an mmorpg and a rpg and and a fps all in one.

What keeps me enthralled with the whole idea of this game isn't even the gameplay, it's the people behind it and the notion that the turd who pods me and laffs is just as likely to be somebody I become good pals with after I dry my tears as he is to become my mortal enemy. The troll who talks exclusively memespeak may just as easily be a lawyer with a wife and 4 kids, and the acerbic, feminist-leaning activist may be a basement dwelling neckbeard with special needs. I've never seen an online game or environment with the level of intelligence or complexity or variety of this one, and I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about the players themselves.

The way I see it is, I've (hopefully) set myself up to win no matter if/when/why I ever decide to stop playing so long as I don't forget why I loved it when I signed up. I spent my few first trial days logging, standing in CQs, staring into space like a catatonic, being completely overwhelmed, and logging off. I play on a Mac and none of my keys work for the game. I missed earning the extra isk for completing a mission within 2 hours because I couldn't find the asteroid belt. My skill queue probably makes zero sense whatsoever.

I've spent days reading up on strategy and it all looks like this to me:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".

And I love this game already. What is wrong with me? i'm a female too, and I thought about hiding it but eff that, and if I ever alt-up they'll be female as well. Now if I could just find the skill book the NPC agent swears is in my P&P folder. Even the agents lie! Lol

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#2 - 2013-06-07 15:17:00 UTC
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

Echo Echoplex wrote:

"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi".


This part is pretty accurate.
Echo Echoplex
#3 - 2013-06-07 15:19:49 UTC
Yeah, after careful review I've decided that's def the way to go.Blink

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-06-07 15:27:09 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

hi, i'm the weird grumpy uncle no one likes to talk to.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Dheeradj Nurgle
Hoover Inc.
Snuffed Out
#5 - 2013-06-07 15:31:45 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

hi, i'm the weird grumpy uncle no one likes to talk to.


No Mad Pls, I'll still you in bad ways.
Sevastian Liao
DreamWeaver Inc.
#6 - 2013-06-07 15:32:04 UTC
What's this? Surely, you're too perfect a fit for the game to really exist.

Welcome to EVE, enjoy your stay.
Zak Breen
Breen Enterprises
#7 - 2013-06-07 15:40:09 UTC
The novelty will wear quick. :)

Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of not knowing. http://www.di.fm/spacemusic

Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#8 - 2013-06-07 15:46:55 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly


I'm the handsome stepbrother you would like a go with but who fails to notice you for some reason.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2013-06-07 15:54:12 UTC
Nice one on taking the fearless approach to being a girl :D

Next time you're on join these two channels: "wgoe=public" and "EVE tutors"

WGoE stands for Women Gamers of EVE, the public one is where you can hang out and request interview with an admin to get into the girls only one. I hang around in the public one :3

EVE Tutors is a helping community sort of chat where a collection of newbs and vets can hang out and help each other. Much more casual environment than the official help channels, more personal too as people get to know you :D

The Drake is a Lie

Echo Echoplex
#10 - 2013-06-07 16:02:27 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
Welcome to our disfunctional familly

hi, i'm the weird grumpy uncle no one likes to talk to.

You aren't fooling me. **** or GTFO. Cool



Xercodo wrote:
Nice one on taking the fearless approach to being a girl :D

Next time you're on join these two channels: "wgoe=public" and "EVE tutors"

WGoE stands for Women Gamers of EVE, the public one is where you can hang out and request interview with an admin to get into the girls only one. I hang around in the public one :3

EVE Tutors is a helping community sort of chat where a collection of newbs and vets can hang out and help each other. Much more casual environment than the official help channels, more personal too as people get to know you :D


Oh, will do and thanks much for the tip Xercodo. I'll see you there.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Echo Echoplex
#11 - 2013-06-07 16:04:15 UTC
Sevastian Liao wrote:
What's this? Surely, you're too perfect a fit for the game to really exist.

I'll prove you worng, just watch me.

Sevastian Liao wrote:
Welcome to EVE, enjoy your stay.

Thanks a lot!

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Spathe Ne Boirelle
Dead Space Continuum
#12 - 2013-06-07 16:05:33 UTC
Maybe joining a corp will easy your learning curve. Reading is a very good choice and option but other times and most of the time, most people learn faster by voice. So join a corp (perhaps going in the recruitment forum and tell you want a corp and your a newb) and have even more fun
Echo Echoplex
#13 - 2013-06-07 16:11:46 UTC
True, time to just dive in and learn through doing. it looks like yes, I should join a corp. for awhile. I did try downloading the Vivox but I got an incompatibility error. Will try again. Thanks for all the help guys.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-06-07 16:13:16 UTC
...and just in case you had any delusions about it: prepare to be the target of lots of sexual innuendos and general drama due to your gender.

I should buy an Ishtar.

Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#15 - 2013-06-07 16:15:23 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
True, time to just dive in and learn through doing. it looks like yes, I should join a corp. for awhile. I did try downloading the Vivox but I got an incompatibility error. Will try again. Thanks for all the help guys.


Do you mean the voice thing from the EVEGate website? I wouldn't worry about it, not many corps use in-game voice anyway.

More likely you'll want teamspeak 3 or mumble.

The tutors chat as a teamspeak we use on occasion and WgoE intervirews are done in voice chat, usually something like TS too :D

The Drake is a Lie

Echo Echoplex
#16 - 2013-06-07 16:35:00 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
...and just in case you had any delusions about it: prepare to be the target of lots of sexual innuendos and general drama due to your gender.

No delusions and a very conscious choice. Thanks :-)

Xercodo wrote:
Echo Echoplex wrote:
True, time to just dive in and learn through doing. it looks like yes, I should join a corp. for awhile. I did try downloading the Vivox but I got an incompatibility error. Will try again. Thanks for all the help guys.


Do you mean the voice thing from the EVEGate website? I wouldn't worry about it, not many corps use in-game voice anyway.

More likely you'll want teamspeak 3 or mumble.

The tutors chat as a teamspeak we use on occasion and WgoE intervirews are done in voice chat, usually something like TS too :D

Yes, the EVEgate thing-I'll check out teamspeak and mumble then, good to know. Mac is proving to be a pita enough already^^

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#17 - 2013-06-07 16:35:05 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:


"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".



Don't forget to drunkt in the jekd and use the ploates to binkle the stinkle.



...and noone ever really quits they just take a break then they come back to remember why they left. If you look through the "Hi, I tried this game X years ago and didn't like it but want to give it another shot...what should I do" threads you find these are the same people with the "RAAAAGGGEEE I QUITS" threads from years ago.

If you have a girl's voice use it to rob lonely neckbeards. Shake whatcha mama gave ya.
voetius
Grundrisse
#18 - 2013-06-07 16:44:53 UTC

I wouldn't take too much notice of the rage quitters. Bear in mind that there several hundred thousand people subscribed and even if a tiny percentage of them rage quit publicly on the forums that is still going to be a few posts.

Have fun.
Echo Echoplex
#19 - 2013-06-07 16:56:01 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Echo Echoplex wrote:


"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".



Don't forget to drunkt in the jekd and use the ploates to binkle the stinkle.



...and noone ever really quits they just take a break then they come back to remember why they left. If you look through the "Hi, I tried this game X years ago and didn't like it but want to give it another shot...what should I do" threads you find these are the same people with the "RAAAAGGGEEE I QUITS" threads from years ago.

If you have a girl's voice use it to rob lonely neckbeards. Shake whatcha mama gave ya.

Yep, maybe I'll even get a new toaster out of it.



voetius wrote:

I wouldn't take too much notice of the rage quitters. Bear in mind that there several hundred thousand people subscribed and even if a tiny percentage of them rage quit publicly on the forums that is still going to be a few posts.

Have fun.

Oh, I know, it's just like other forums x 1000 but interesting nevertheless^^. Thanks!

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton

Zanzbar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-06-07 17:00:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanzbar
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Echo Echoplex wrote:


"Fit your jsodef with a giejpr and two F235 fjeies and warp to Maowojdje. From there, invest in some tzrqt lasers and gate to Obidijw and join a HNWQ with a view to swkwhing your stpqxe jjeurwowk sogorkejwhwjusi. Simples".



Don't forget to drunkt in the jekd and use the ploates to binkle the stinkle.


someone has been abusing illegal combat boosters againStraight
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