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Charon before and after Odyssey
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Barbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-06-07 15:21:40 UTC
Before Odyssey I could fly a Charon, lost it ...Cry
Can't find a clear answer : if I buy a new one can I still fly it or do I have to train the 24 days extra who came with the
release of Odyssey?

Ty to highlight this .Question

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2 - 2013-06-07 15:22:50 UTC
Barbar wrote:
Before Odyssey I could fly a Charon, lost it ...Cry
Can't find a clear answer : if I buy a new one can I still fly it or do I have to train the 24 days extra who came with the
release of Odyssey?

Ty to highlight this .Question


You need Advanced Spaceship Command 5 for freighters now.

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stoicfaux
#3 - 2013-06-07 15:26:32 UTC
Now that the Charon is a T3 ship (yay! industrial tech 3 overhaul!) you have to be careful about losing skill points upon ship destruction if you don't have the new prereqs. =(

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-06-07 15:28:08 UTC
Barbar wrote:
Can't find a clear answer

Obviously this is because you didn't lift a single finger to look for an answer.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Gary Goat
XDC-UK
#5 - 2013-06-07 15:30:07 UTC
If you could fly it before you can fly it now.

All the pre-requisites do is stop you learning the caldari freighter skill. If you have the freighter skill you can fly it.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#6 - 2013-06-07 15:30:27 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Barbar wrote:
Before Odyssey I could fly a Charon, lost it ...Cry
Can't find a clear answer : if I buy a new one can I still fly it or do I have to train the 24 days extra who came with the
release of Odyssey?

Ty to highlight this .Question


You need Advanced Spaceship Command 5 for freighters now.
That change only affects those training for it now. If you could fly it before, you can fly it now.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2013-06-07 15:30:28 UTC
Are you reading the prerequisites correctly?
Ramona McCandless wrote:
You need Advanced Spaceship Command 5 for freighters now.
Not for the ships. Just for the skills.
Reldor Silverheart
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-06-07 15:31:10 UTC
If he´s got the freighter skilled plugged in allready he should be able to fly it, the new prereqs are only for injecting not flying. The mantra to remember is: if you could fly it before you can fly it now.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#9 - 2013-06-07 15:32:56 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Now that the Charon is a T3 ship (yay! industrial tech 3 overhaul!) you have to be careful about losing skill points upon ship destruction if you don't have the new prereqs. =(

False, but thanks for posting.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-06-07 15:33:03 UTC
Gary Goat wrote:
If you could fly it before you can fly it now.



This is your answer.


The only thing that would stop you from flying it would be dying enough times to completely lose the freighter skill. Other than that you're good.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#11 - 2013-06-07 15:33:23 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Are you reading the prerequisites correctly?
Ramona McCandless wrote:
You need Advanced Spaceship Command 5 for freighters now.
Not for the ships. Just for the skills.



Oh ok sorry, I misread the OP's question.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2013-06-07 15:35:48 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
The only thing that would stop you from flying it would be dying enough times to completely lose the freighter skill.
…which is pretty much impossible.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#13 - 2013-06-07 15:36:21 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Gary Goat wrote:
If you could fly it before you can fly it now.



This is your answer.


The only thing that would stop you from flying it would be dying enough times to completely lose the freighter skill. Other than that you're good.
If you lose SP through a bad clone, you don't actually lose the skill. So even then it wouldn't matter.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-06-07 15:36:41 UTC
Mag's wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Now that the Charon is a T3 ship (yay! industrial tech 3 overhaul!) you have to be careful about losing skill points upon ship destruction if you don't have the new prereqs. =(

False, but thanks for posting.

Pretty obvious he was trolling.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mag's
Azn Empire
#15 - 2013-06-07 15:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Mag's wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Now that the Charon is a T3 ship (yay! industrial tech 3 overhaul!) you have to be careful about losing skill points upon ship destruction if you don't have the new prereqs. =(

False, but thanks for posting.

Pretty obvious he was trolling.
That could be. But with so many posting the same thing over and over, (I can't fly after the change etc) I have my doubts.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-06-07 15:39:08 UTC
To fly a Charon post patch you need Advanced Spaceship Command to 1 (yes 1, not 5) and Caldari Freighter to 1, that is all.

Now if you somehow lose the Caldari Freighter skill, then you will need to get Advanced Spaceship Command to 5 before you can inject it again.

I hope that helps.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2013-06-07 15:41:37 UTC
IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.

Regardless of what the prereqs say, if you could jump in and pilot the ship before Odyssey, you can jump in and pilot it now.

IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.

This of course does not apply to the lazy ******* who didnt inject and train the skill before odyssey, and just sat there with the warm fuzzy of knowing that they could inject the skill if they wanted to based on the prereqs, but were too busy procrasterbating.

So in closing,

IF YOU COULD (Physically) FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.

/thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Haulie Berry
#18 - 2013-06-07 15:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
This question again, huh?

You know how the Eve community generally believes itself to be a bit smarter than other MMO communities?

Yeah, we need to stop that.

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.


IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.



IF YOU COULD (Physically) FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.





They should post a dev blog that consists of nothing but this copy+pasted for 10 pages. Actually, they should make it like the EULA, where you have to scroll to the bottom and click accept before it lets you post.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-06-07 15:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Paul Panala wrote:
Now if you somehow lose the Caldari Freighter skill

This is literally impossible.
I'm pretty sure it's also impossible to lose level 1 of any skill, as well. I suppose I could try this on the test server, but eh.

When you get podded in an insufficient clone, your highest SP skill loses either 5% of the difference between your clone's rated SP and your own SP, or half of the SP of that skill, whichever is less. So if somebody has Amarr Titan V for example and 150m SP and loses an alpha clone at 900,000 SP, they'll lose 2,048,000 SP which is the most you can possibly lose, from Amarr Titan V since a rank 16 skill at level V is the highest SP skill in the game (there are 5 of these).

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-06-07 15:59:02 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
This question again, huh?

You know how the Eve community generally believes itself to be a bit smarter than other MMO communities?

Yeah, we need to stop that.

Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.


IF YOU COULD FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.



IF YOU COULD (Physically) FLY IT BEFORE, YOU CAN FLY IT NOW.





They should post a dev blog that consists of nothing but this copy+pasted for 10 pages.

Naw, you would still get idiots posting threads like this one, asking if they can still fly their "X" after the patch.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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