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Capsule can be transported in cargo hold?
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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#1 - 2013-06-07 11:48:43 UTC
Hi.

I found a list of packed sized of ships and found out, that capsule, packed, takes as much room as packed frigate. So I wonder if I can somehow pack capsule and put it into cargo hold of some ship. If yes - can I select active ship then ? Or even undock?

List is here:
AssaultShip: 2500
AuditLogSecureContainer: 1000
Battlecruiser: 15000
Battleship: 50000
BlackOps: 50000
CapitalIndustrialShip: 1000000
Capsule: 500
CargoContainer: 1000
Carrier: 1000000
CombatReconShip: 10000
CommandShip: 15000
CovertOps: 2500
Cruiser: 10000
Destroyer: 5000
Dreadnought: 1000000
ElectronicAttackShips: 2500
EliteBattleship: 50000
Exhumer: 3750
ForceReconShip: 10000
FreightContainer: 1000
Freighter: 1000000
Frigate: 2500
HeavyAssaultShip: 10000
HeavyInterdictors: 10000
Industrial: 20000
IndustrialCommandShip: 500000
Interceptor: 2500
Interdictor: 5000
JumpFreighter: 1000000
Logistics: 10000
Marauders: 50000
MiningBarge: 3750
MissionContainer: 1000
Mothership: 1000000
Rookieship: 2500
SecureCargoContainer: 1000
Shuttle: 500
StealthBomber: 2500
StrategicCruiser: 5000
Titan: 10000000
TransportShip: 20000

Source is http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1143253.

Interesting also the fact, that Strategic Cruiser takes less place than cruiser...

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Forest Archer
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Caldari State
#2 - 2013-06-07 11:52:52 UTC
You do know you can't leave your capsule right.

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Merouk Baas
#3 - 2013-06-07 12:03:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
You can't leave your capsule, that's death. For all intents and purposes you ARE your capsule. Whatever ship your capsule is in, you are in it. You cannot package the ship you are in, or the capsule, the menu option is not present.

Packaged ships CAN be transported in the cargo space of other ships, but even if you eject the ship in space, it ejects in a cargo container, and cannot be used as a ship. You have to use a station's services to assemble the ship into a flyable ship.

Notice how when you buy ships from the market they come packaged and you can't enter them, you must assemble them first? You can't use ships that aren't assembled.

So that's basically the deal, if they are packaged you can transport ships in Industrial or Freighter cargo space, but cannot use them as ships until they are assembled. The option to transport is there for manufacturers and traders, so they can bring ships to Jita, Dodixie, and other markets where there are high sales.
Jekk Staxed
Bees Nutz
#4 - 2013-06-07 13:01:10 UTC
erg cz wrote:
StrategicCruiser: 5000

Interesting also the fact, that Strategic Cruiser takes less place than cruiser...


That is because the Strategic Cruiser is actually a multiple part ship, so the main hull is smaller than a cruiser when packaged since it's missing it's main sections.
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#5 - 2013-06-07 14:09:12 UTC
You cant leave your capsule. So there is no way to get one that you can transport and it would be totally useless anyway.

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#6 - 2013-06-07 14:51:06 UTC
Ace Menda wrote:
You cant leave your capsule. So there is no way to get one that you can transport and it would be totally useless anyway.


afaik, there have been ways to get one, but idk if they have all been patched out or not.

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#7 - 2013-06-07 14:54:03 UTC
A Capsule can be aquired if another corpmember biomasses, then his capsule appears in the corphangar and can be transferred into the private hangar. It can even be boarded which simply makes it disappear. I seem to recall it cannot be put into a ships´ hangar and thus cannot be moved.
That was some time ago, though, so it might have changed.

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Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#8 - 2013-06-07 14:58:37 UTC
Lord Battlestar wrote:
Ace Menda wrote:
You cant leave your capsule. So there is no way to get one that you can transport and it would be totally useless anyway.


afaik, there have been ways to get one, but idk if they have all been patched out or not.


I know about that bug from a channel I've been part of.

the guy reported it and CCP actually got back with the reply it is classed as an exploit

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Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
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#9 - 2013-07-01 11:06:06 UTC
I still have 1 or 2 empty capsules... can't remember how you could get one... but it was around 2004-2005, when I still had most of my memories.
Oraac Ensor
#10 - 2013-07-01 11:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
erg cz wrote:
I found a list of packed sized of ships and found out, that capsule, packed, takes as much room as packed frigate.

>>>

Capsule: 500

>>>

Frigate: 2500

What?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#11 - 2013-07-01 12:43:40 UTC
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa wrote:
I still have 1 or 2 empty capsules... can't remember how you could get one... but it was around 2004-2005, when I still had most of my memories.


Used to have one as well, no idea how i got it tho. But a few months ago it just disappeared so no idea what happened with it Sad

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-07-01 23:21:39 UTC
I'm going to guess that this list is an artifact of object oriented programming. Since the capsule, for all intensive purposes, can act like a ship (dock, undock, warp, etc) then it probably is inherited from the same class that also includes the ability to repackage and fit in the cargo hold.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-02 15:44:58 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
You can't leave your capsule, that's death. For all intents and purposes you ARE your capsule. Whatever ship your capsule is in, you are in it. You cannot package the ship you are in, or the capsule, the menu option is not present.

Packaged ships CAN be transported in the cargo space of other ships, but even if you eject the ship in space, it ejects in a cargo container, and cannot be used as a ship. You have to use a station's services to assemble the ship into a flyable ship.

Notice how when you buy ships from the market they come packaged and you can't enter them, you must assemble them first? You can't use ships that aren't assembled.

So that's basically the deal, if they are packaged you can transport ships in Industrial or Freighter cargo space, but cannot use them as ships until they are assembled. The option to transport is there for manufacturers and traders, so they can bring ships to Jita, Dodixie, and other markets where there are high sales.


This. Also, the Orca can transport a limited amount of assembled ships. The ship maintenance bay in the Orca can carry 40,000m3 of assembled ships, and fleet members can even get in / switch to them / store them in the Orca while in space (if the Orca pilot sets the bay permission level). Handy.

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